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Stuck at sea!

Ozzie frank

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Hello, I have a 2000 ocean pro 175 that runs like a dream until you stop! When you go to start it again it won't fire, I tried to restart it for over an hour last time and ended up getting towed back to the boat ramp. Once back on the trailer the engine fired up first turn of the key!! I've replaced the regulator, power pack and fitted new forward controls.... Any ideas what could be wrong please. When it doesn't start it will turn over and every now and then try to fire but never does.....
thank you
 
You need to do some trouble shooting. When it won't start get an open air gap spark tester set at 7/16 " and check your spark. If you don't have any go to cdielectronics.com.
 
Are you pushing the choke when it wont start? Normally the only time you need to push the choke or primer is the first start of the day. The next time it happens pull a spark plug and see if its flooded? If the plug is wet with fuel that is your problem. You can pull the plugs and crank on it to clear the cylinders and then put the plugs in and it should fire up. Never touch the choke/primer after the first start of the day unless the engine has sat for a long period of time. Hope that helps
 
(Thorough Spark Test)
(J. Reeves)

This is assuming that there is absolutely no spark on any cylinder.


To test the ignition switch for shorts, remove all of the spark plugs, then disconnect the large RED electrical plug at the engine, then crank the engine, testing for spark by using a small jumper from the battery terminal of the starter solenoid to the small 3/8" nut connector on the solenoid which energizes it. If you now have spark, the problem is usually the ignition switch.


However, if you now have spark we want to make sure that the switch is indeed the problem and that there is no short in the instrument wiring harness between the engine's RED plug and the key switch. To test this, re-connect that large RED plug, then remove the Black/Yellow wire from the back of the switch and again test for spark. If you had spark on the previous test and now have no spark, a short exists in the wiring harness somewhere. BUT if you still have spark as per the previous test (disconnected RED plug), the ignition switch is indeed faulty.


If thru all of the above the spark does not exist at all, there is a possibility that a short exists in the engine's side of that RED plug. To test, re-connect everything that might still be disconnected during the above tests EXCEPT that RED plug, then remove the Black/Yellow wire from the powerpack connector. Now test for spark via the solenoid jump. If you had no spark before with the RED plug disconnected but do now simply by having that Black/Yellow wire disconnected from the powerpack, a short would exist in the engine's wiring harness. Should this type problem exist, cut the Black/Yellow wires before and after the RED plug connector, splice wires to make them longer, and bypass/jump over that RED plug.


If throughout all of the above you still have no spark, the usual problem is a powerpack failure.

The stator under the flywheel can be checked visually for a meltdown. Look closely at it. If there is any cracks and/or a sticky substance dripping down on the timer base and powerhead area, that would result in a AC voltage drop to the powerpack. Should this condition exist, replace the stator. This condition, when it begins, may result in perfect spark when the engine is cold...BUT... after it warms up, then shut down to fish a bit or whatever and all that engine heat rises to the flywheel and stator area, that stator fails, resulting in weak, erratic, and eventually no spark! A stator in this meltdown condition requires replacing regardless of whatever reading one may get out of it.

You may check the resistance of the stator with an ohm meter between the Brown wire and the Brown/Yellow wire. Check for whatever the proper readings should be in your service manual. If you have no manual, your local library may have one.

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Are you pushing the choke when it wont start? Normally the only time you need to push the choke or primer is the first start of the day. The next time it happens pull a spark plug and see if its flooded? If the plug is wet with fuel that is your problem. You can pull the plugs and crank on it to clear the cylinders and then put the plugs in and it should fire up. Never touch the choke/primer after the first start of the day unless the engine has sat for a long period of time. Hope that helps

I did use the choke as this is still a newish engine for me but then I was ring without the choke for up to an hour... I had been sat for an hour before just fishing then went to move and it started but after the second stop for an hour it wouldn't start. I'll give anything a go.. this had happened on a previous trip as well
 
There is usually plenty of fuel vapors in the crankcase unless the engine has sat for several hours then you start cranking the starter first then just push the choke for short bursts it is real easy to flood a engine after it has been started. Give that a shot.
 
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