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jvangundy

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I have a 1967 80 horsepower Evinrude Starflite IX selectric outboard. Model number 80793R. When searching for controls for this outboard on marineengine.com I only get the Johnson control part number which is 379657. I assume that the Evinrude is different because it has a completely different appearance. I know that you can use the Johnson controls with the Evinrude, but I was wondering if anybody knew what the actual part number for the Evinrude version of that selectric shift control group would be or if someone could point me in the right direction to figuring this out or if both the Johnson and the Evinrude control group has the same part number. When I search for the part number I only ever get the Johnson version. I should add that the actual model number of my motor does not show up on marineenengine.com parts search instead I've been told that model number V4AL-19 was essentially the same motor except for a few things like cowling and paint color.
 
0278573 ??----One listed on E-bay at a mere $199 or so.----Then you will need some wiring bits as well.-----Your location ?
 
I am in West Central Ohio... Can I ask how to figure out that is the correct part number? I would hate to drop that much on an incorrect part. Thanks!
 
You somehow doubt the information posted.-------So look it up for the 66 model and the 68 model.------Good luck with this fine motor?
 
It's not a matter of doubting the information. It's more just trying to learn and figure out how you know that that's the right one so that I don't have to come back and ask more questions in the future as I'm working on this motor that I would otherwise be able to figure out on my own. I greatly appreciate any and all help but at the same time, I don't want to have to bother others unnecessarily. So if I'm understanding you correctly, the 66 and 68 models can be used for reference as well? Thanks again!!
 
I started working on these fine motors in 1968 !----I could overhaul top and bottom of your motor without glancing at a manual.
 
Some will argue and doubt.-----A complete evaluation of this motor can now be done, even without controls !-----So don't spend any beer tokens until you determine the condition of the motor.------Test electric shift lower unit.---Compression test.-----Remove bypass covers to inspect pistons / rings.----Pressure test gearcase.-----Be a shame to spend say $500 only to find out that motor is worth 10 cents / lb , that is my opinion.
 
jvangundy said:
It's not a matter of doubting the information. It's more just trying to learn and figure out how you know that that's the right one so that I don't have to come back and ask more questions in the future as I'm working on this motor that I would otherwise be able to figure out on my own. I greatly appreciate any and all help but at the same time, I don't want to have to bother others unnecessarily. So if I'm understanding you correctly, the 66 and 68 models can be used for reference as well? Thanks again!!
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You need to know a few basics.

There are two types of "Electric Shift". One type uses spring clutches in the lower unit gearcase. Evinrude called theirs "Selectric Shift". Johnson called theirs "Electric Shift".

The second type used a hydraulic oil pump in the lower unit gearcase. Evinrude continued to call theirs "Selectric Shift", but Johnson changed their name to "Hydro-Electric Shift"


The remote control for motors with electric clutches is different than the one for hydraulic shift motors. The main difference is the electric switch in the control. Evinrude used push button switches for both types while Johnson used a switch activated by the throttle lever position. You cannot use controls with the wrong switches, that is you cannot use electric clutch switches to operate hydraulic shift motors. even though they may look alike. But you can use the Evinrude pushbutton control on Johnson motors, and vice-versa, as long they are they have the correct kind of switch (clutch or hydraulic).

Evinrude and Johnson used the same kind of shifting (Electric or hydraulic) in any particular year/horsepower. So a Johnson control for a 1967 80hp motor will work on a 1967 Evinrude 80hp motor, and a 1967 Evinrude control will work on a 1967 Johnson 80hp, etc.

Clear as mud yet?















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Thanks and yes It is clear... And I ordered a parts catalogue specifically for this motor and was able to confirm racerone did give the correct Evinrude part number.... I'm not ordering controls any time soon it was just one of the few parts that I new would be different from the Johnson and and appears pricey. I was finding a lot of Selectric Evinrude controls but very few Johnson but without the Evinrude part number I was not going to be able to identify for certain the correct controls.... Anyway, after getting a good detailed look at the motor it's going to take some work to get it going. It looks like someone already took a shot at it and didn't get it all back together. It will likely be a project that takes all winter to complete at least.... So my next question is... Am I better if to start one thread on the entire project or create a new thread each time I run into a problem or have a question? Thanks again!!
 
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