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bigfoot3

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I had a pair of 2005 225hp hondas that died due to the dreaded midshaft bearing failure and corrosion within 6 months of each other. I replaced the first one a year and a half ago with a 2015 honda 225, then the second one with 2016 honda 225 last season. The manuals (both the old one and the new one) does not mention inspecting, lubricating or changing that bearing. Do the new hondas have the same vulnerability there? What exactly needs to be done other than what is listed in the maintenance schedule?
 
Susukis had the same issues, Dealer ship said to pull l/u's every year to inspect shaft,clean and polish shaft,and regrease area of shaft that rides on that bushing/bearing. Flush with fresh water after every use in saltwater. factory big wigs had no comment on the issue
 
A few years back Aristikat had this problem and replaced the lower unit cowling. You may want to search this forum for his discussion. I understand that the new cowling had a much larger hole for lubricating water to get to the bushing. To the best of my knowledge, Honda started installing these modified units in mid-2007. My own 2007 has not had this problem and I operate exclusively in saltwater.

Having said that, it's always a good idea to check that bushing every time you do a water pump replacement.
 
chawk Having said that said:
I have a mobile mechanic doing the maintenance. He is not a honda certified mechanic. What specifically do I have to tell him? inspection in place or remove and inspect. Lubricate?

i can't find a honda certified mechanic that isn't connected to the local Honda dealer ( whom I refuse to use. Long story) the dealer I purchased them from is too far for routine maintenance
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Once you've dropped the lower unit to change the water pump, look up inside where the drive shaft seats. You will see the bushing. If your hands aren't too big you can actually reach in there to feel it for rust, distortions or deterioration. It's held in place with a C clip. Not too difficult to remove of you have pair of straight snap ring pliers.

If you need to replace it, here are the part numbers you will need...

• Bushing = 40210-ZY3-610 – (Vertical shaft bearing)
• C ring = 9052-ZY3-000
• Flat washer = 9053-ZY3-610

Here is a good video on the subject. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44ZaDzNck1I
 
chawk_man said:
Once you've dropped the lower unit to change the water pump, look up inside where the drive shaft seats. You will see the bushing. If your hands aren't too big you can actually reach in there to feel it for rust, distortions or deterioration. It's held in place with a C clip. Not too difficult to remove of you have pair of straight snap ring pliers.

If you need to replace it, here are the part numbers you will need...

• Bushing = 40210-ZY3-610 – (Vertical shaft bearing)
• C ring = 9052-ZY3-000
• Flat washer = 9053-ZY3-610

Here is a good video on the subject. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44ZaDzNck1I
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Perfect.Thanks - exactly what I needed! Looks like it cost $50 for each engine. May as well just change them every other year so they don't blow up the engine.
 
Good call on that bushing, Had fishing buddy who had that bushing seize his engine,Starter drew so much current that the battery cables caught on fire under dashboard and fried everything at the helm hydraulic steering, control cables.entire wiring harness and all accessory wiring, Mega bucks$$$, Thank goodness for fire extinguishers!! I'm hear to tell you about it!
 
Given the fact that your engines are relatively new, I don't think you need to change out those bushings that often. Every time you service the water pump, just inspect the bushings well as I described. Your lower units should have the new cowlings which provide a lot more water lubrication to those bushings.
 
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