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Compression testing - confessions of a coil destroyer

nicklanigan

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Just a note for anyone interested - make sure you ground out your plugs or use the kill circuit/ignition off etc when doing a compression test.

Eating a slice of humble pie here - and I'm an electrical engineer - for years I did compression tests by simply pulling out the plugs, leaving everything dangling and using the key switch to crank over the motor. I got away with it for years also.

Along came a new power pack, and I decided to replace my original coils (40 years old), with modern CDI ones. And yip, my old method killed a coil. It kills them in a specific way - ohms test is just fine, but a high voltage path has been created in the coil to ground and the coil is now useless.

It gave me pause for thought though - why did a modern coil fail when older ones had been fine for years of bad testing procedures?

The spark plug, or gap tester effectively provides a limit to the secondary coil voltage - once the voltage is large enough, a spark is formed, and the secondary voltage collapses. I'm guessing this would limit the secondary voltage to 5,000-10,000V. Take away the route to ground, and the secondary coil voltage will go far far higher.

In a theoretical world, a secondary coil with no route to ground should be able to handle an extremely large voltage - the limit though is the insulation between the high voltage and anything connected to ground. You are at the coil manufactures whim here about what the upper limit they have designed for. I'd imagine they have designed for 2-3x regular operating voltages.

The power pack would also be at risk - potentially the risk of a power pack failure is lower than a coil failure, but neither is desirable.

Turns out in my case, the old coils simply had better insulation, or the old power pack wasn't as capable of creating such a high voltage in the secondary coil as a new one.

Doesn't matter, as either way, it's just a risk of something being destroyed.
 
Idont have to worry about blowing coils when I do a compression test because I keep the key off and use a remote starter to send 12v (signal) across the solenoid. I also made a 6 post spark tester to run the coil wires to if I want to test spark.

I must confess also though that I have done compression test many times without grounding the coils and never had an issue, as you have also.

But last year I replaced all of my Evinrude coils with CDI replacements and blew one coil on the first trip. Then I blew the second coil on the second trip. Went ahead and replaced them all with factory Evinrude coils and been out 20 times since then with no issue. My guess is that these newer coils are made more and more chinsy and cheaply and the QC is down the crapper. Heck I put a brand new CDI power pack on a different engine a few years back and it was bad out of the box. Dang!
 
Coils made in South America are junk and CDI's quality has went down hill over the past several years since they stated importing....that why I use Serria.
 
I am still a doubter on ignition damage(not in any manual or taught in any service school or Amtech class) ...I would like to see this coil delaminated to see arc track. I do know that the newer coils have a powdered iron core and if overtightened or washers/grounding washer(the star washer) are not in place the coil can be damaged.These coils with damaged core can cause inductive kickback and damage pack. When it comes to electricity I see arc tracks on 480VAC elements and transformers shorted all the time in my 2nd job,,,
 
On a rope start motor, if I just pull off the lanyrd overboard switch this should eliminate any issue when doing a compression test?
 
Just to update on this... I'm no longer sure if I compression test procedure actually caused the problem.

I've just had another coil die - it started to fail intermittently, but has now failed outright. It was a brand new one, with about 4 hours on the water and had never been subjected to ill treatment.

My conclusion is that the CDI coils are junk I'm afraid. I certainly won't be buying them again.
 
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