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1996 evinrude, few question please help.

kevinnem

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Hello all. I have been fighting mightily to get this engine working reliable for a trip that is supposed to start as soon as next Wednesday, but things are not going well at all.

I have the 3 cylinder 50 hp evinrude , 1996 Just replaced the water pump, rebuilt the 3 carbs, and fuel pump. I think this originally used the VRO pump, but previous owner has swapped that out for the more standard triangular one.

Big picture, I don't trust this engine, and am about to do some sailing in unfamiliar places, so unreliability is not an option. I would hire someone in my area to do it, but I can't find anyone.

I did have it running today, but only barely. it was crazy rough at idle.

I have a few questions.

First one, and the biggest. - the motor is about .. 20 or more degrees off of plumb. The way the boat is made, I can't lower it all the way down when it is on the trailer. -- there is fuel that leaks out the front of the carbs. when I have the solenoid open it is especially bad ( I am testing it with out the airbox on the front). Is the fact that the engine is tilted back (Carbs are tilted "forward") an issue?

second , I was getting a leak from near the pump . the fuel seemed to be accumulating around the top of the hose that comes from a sport with a blue port , just behind the carb of the lowest cylinder. this is the hose, that I think uses the pulses from the crank case to power the pump. I have no idea why there would be fuel coming out of this hose. was I wrong. is the fuel leak really some where else and only appearing to come from that location? It would not surprise me if the fuel pump was leaking. They give this tiny gasket, that has less then 1mm of tolerance, and I had a hell of time installing it. any other thoughts on the fuel pump situation ?

lastly, once I installed the new water pump. (the part numbers seem right, but new one has 6 legs, and the old only had 3), I noticed it was way way hard to spin the drive shaft. Is this normal? The old one was all cracked, and "set in place" with teh arms bent, and the new one of course is much more "springy", thus harder to spin.

The unit will create a water steam, though it seem to work best at higher rpm, at idle there is less water then I thought there should be.

the unit did run today, for a few mins.. so it isn't blown up, but it does run very very poorly. Any sources you can point me toward for tuning it up ?
 
Sounds like the pulse limiter still needs to be removed.-----The thingy with the blue cover was only needed for the VRO.----The proper pump for that does NOT mount to a gasket I think.-----Any pictures of the pump installation?----You should have installed the latest water pump kit along with some modifications.---Yes that uses the 6 vane impeller.
 
Thanks for the reply, you have already helped a ton.

the pulse limiter, from google, is a blue nipple behind lowest carb. attached is a photo of what I have there now .... (testing attachment, did it work?) does this need to be replaced?

The fuel pump that is on it, install by previous owner is
http://www.marineengine.com/parts/j...turer=Evinrude&section=Fuel+Pump+&+Filter
or, somethign very close to it.

it is held on by a "L" shaped bracket, that I assume is home made. there is hose going from the blue nipple to the pump, .. it *appears* that fuel was leaking out of this hose... should this hose have fuel in it???? or is it a air line only? .. if there was fuel appearing at the top of this hose, where it connects to the pump -- should we be thinking that the fuel is coming from the pump? Where the pump attached to the "L" bracket, I did not use a gasket.. I think that is for modle where this pump mounts to the side of engine for pulse power. HOWEVER I am concern that were it bolts on to this "l" braket there is no clearance, . that might create an inablity for it to "pump", and it is pushed agaist teh rear of the bracket. thoughts?

SUPER glad you can confirm the 6 leg pump works with this, the one that came off was 3 prong, so that is something I can cross off the list.
 

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The pulse limiter is a " flow fuse " for the VRO pumps.----It protects it from a high pressure spike.----It is not needed for a 3 nipple pump.----Not sure where or how you want to use a " 6 leg pump " on this motor.----Post a picture of your pump !!------Time to learn how these pumps work as it appears you are confused ----Sorry to be blunt.-----Find / fabricate / install the fuel pump bracket for say an 1983 model 70 HP Johnson / Evinrude or a 1996 model 65 HP and do a proper install for that pump
 
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Here is a photo of my fuel pump. I am worried a little bit about the fact the back "hole" is covered by the metal plate, . should I be worried about that?

Does the blue port need to be replaced with something else?, if so can you point me to what I need?

also , fyi , we are talking about 2 different pumps.. a water pump and fuel pump.
 

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Need the correct water pump also as thats the wrong one as if you use it will need to update t-stat ,spring and cover
 
Take the pump out of the bag and take good pics of it. Your motor should not have had a 3 vane water pump in it the 6 vane is the correct one. Put up a pic of where the telltale comes out of the block. A 96 should have the updates done to it already.
 
The latest water pump kit comes with the 6 vane impeller and parts to update the thermostat and spring !!----We all know that these engines suffered from overheat ( # 2 cylinder ) I think.------The pulse limiter is a " flow fuse " to protect the VRO pump !----The pulse limiter is NOT needed for a conventional pump.----Just remove it and thread in a brass nipple.----The 96 model came from the factory with tell tale off the top of the block.------But this motor may not be original.-----Service bulletin on that change came out in 1994.
 
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