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Water in Outdrive fluid

jerryluchuk

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I hope this is the right forum - if not will someone please direct me to the correct one. I have a problem with my Volvo Penta DP-SM outdrive getting water into the drive fluid. When I drained it this year it was a mustard color. My other outdrive fluid is normal. I have been told that the problem is most likely the prop shaft seals. Is this correct or should I look for other problems? Can these be replaced with the outdrive on the boat without separating the lower gear case from the upper case? Is there any special tools or problems I should know about? I have the manuals on this drive but they do not cover replacing the seals and only show and exploded view of the lower gear case. Thanks in advance. Jerry
 
make sure ur drive o-ring gaskets weren't comprised the ones u drain from and fill from...your best bet is to do a pressure test on the drive, that will determine if you have a leak. Ricardo on this forum will steer u right.
 
Pull your props and look for fishing line wrapped around your propeller shaft. Often times line will get caught here and compromise the horizontal propeller shaft seal. Replace the o-rings as mentioned above. If the boat is on the hard you should be able to pull the horizontal shaft. I have done many 280s and a 290, but have not done a DP-SM. I believe you may need a special tool to pull it. Often times you can fab one. Scour the forums for threads relating to this removal.

You may also want to loosen your driveline bellows and ensure there is no water in it. If you have not replaced this recently, then pull the upper gearcase and install a new one. I had a bellows with a small tear in it that allowed water in that went into the drive through the upper gearcase.

Good luck.
 
Yes the DP-SM is quite different from the AQ series drives re; the upper unit/lower unit interface.
No separate transmission to remove on this style drive.
The prop shaft bearing carrier is also quite different.

The eccentric piston seal is very much the same. These can become a source of water also.

You'll want to perform both a Pressure and Vacuum "Leak-Down" test. ... oil must be drained for the pressure test.
 
Thanks for all the recommendations. I pulled the out drive and did a pressure test. The leak is in the shift seal which I have ordered and am replacing. Thanks. Jerry
 
Use the OEM seal, and note that these are directional.
Install with Perfect Seal.
Be sure to polish the eccentric piston shaft.

Remove the previous roll pin (spring pin) or you'll have trouble removing the next one.

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I wanted to add an update. All the pins came out easily but I had a hard time getting the old seal out. I finally got it out and then had a problem getting the new seal to seal all the way. I did not have the volvo tool and ruined the new seal trying to get it to seat all the way. It seems excessively tight. So I ordered another seal and the tool to do it again which I am now waiting for. Thanks for the previous feedback it makes things a lot easier. Jerry
 
Jerry, the old seal must be carefully carved out of the bore. We actually distort it and fold it as to remove it. There's no other option that I know of.

The new seal should not be all that tight in the bore. Make sure that the bore is perfectly cleaned out and that there is no ridge at/near the opening.

You do not necessarily need the OEM seal installation tool.
Any shaft or bushing type affair with the same OD will work just fine (the tool does not enter the bore ID).
It must have a shoulder that is eased of any sharp edges, and must be thick enough to catch the entire seal lip.
You can use a large bench vice and take advantage of the parellel jaws.

Again, note that this seal is "Directional".
It's not easy to see this, so look at the instructions and look closely at the seal.

Install the seal with Perfect Seal or equivilant.
It will both lubricate and seal the surfaces while installing it.


Edit:
Back to the detent pin "spring pin" (aka roll pin) for a moment.

If this little spring pin bore is parallel to the eccentric piston, it is pushed to the bottom of the bore for disassembly.
(if this is the perpendicular style..... the disregard this)

We then spray something like carburetor cleaner into the bore to dilute the gear oil.
Then we gently tap the eccentric piston to shake the spring pin out of the bore.

Reason for mentioning this:
Some kits will include a new spring pin.
If the old pin has not been removed from the pin bore (oil tends to hold in there), there is no longer any space for the next pin to be pushed into during the next disassembly.
Now we're stuck with an eccentric piston that can't be removed without sacrificing it.

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