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Volvo 8.1gi-EF issues

Seabrowner

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Hi all,

I recently purchased a 2003 Pursuit 2865 Denali with the Volvo Penta 8.1gi-EF 375HP engine. Serial number 4012111070

I have several questions that I'm hoping someone can assist with.

I've had a few problems with the engine so far:

1) The anode in the top of the heat exchanger had broken off at some point which caused the heat exchanger to warp at the top and raw water began leaking at the upper gasket. I washed everything down thoroughly with fresh water as soon as I noticed it. I had to put two gaskets on to stop the leak and it has been working well since. I am going to buy a new heat exchanger and replace it myself to save some $. Any recommendations on where to purchase a new heat exchanger?

2) The motor was popping (backfiring) on the rare occasion at a certain RPM so I drained the Racor S3220TUL filter and found quite a bit of water in it. I also removed the OEM Volvo/Penta 3862228 filter on the fuel pump and found some debris and water in it as well. I replaced the OEM Fuel/Water Separator with a Sierra 18-7789 that I found stored on the boat. I have no idea if this is the right crossover filter but I screwed it on. I feel like I should replace the Racor element as well since there was so much water in it. I have drained the bowl a few times since and there is no sign of water now.

3) The next trip out the boat was running great. I tied up to the dock for 5 mins and headed back out. The engine overheated and shut off a few mins out. I came back to the dock with my kicker and started diagnosing. I cracked the lid to the heat exchanger while the engine was idling to see if it was pumping raw water and it wasn't. I felt the water pump and it was cold (engine off). I flushed it out with the freshwater fitting and the intakes were clear. I removed the intake hose to the raw water pump and there was water running. At this point I figured it was the impeller so I swapped that out. Took the boat out and the temps remained at 175. The next day I was heading back to my slip and I decided to run it up to test max RPM since the engine had felt a bit sluggish lately. For some reason the engine wouldn't trim up and I was only able to hit 3,600 instead of the 4,400 it would pull a couple of weeks ago (before all the water in the furl issues). I'm hoping the engine trim is just the relay since the trim down is working.

So, the acceleration is slower and it won't hit max RPMs. I suspect it's a fuel pressure or injector issue but I want to make sure it's not a compression issue. I think I am going to check engine compression first tomorrow morning and then start with inspecting the fuel line in the tank, the shutoff valve, and the fuel pressure at the fuel pump and on the engine. What fuel pressure numbers should I be seeing when I key it on in those two locations? The next step I was going to take would be to inspect the fuel rails and then finally pulling the injectors to have them tested and serviced. Does this sound right? Or should I be going about this differently? I'm not a mechanic obviously but I am mechanically inclined. The mechanics in my area are booked for weeks this time of year.

While trying to find part numbers I came across this Volvo Penta site and it seems to be accurate even though for some reason it's in Rotterdam! Volvo Penta OEM parts aren't cheap! Can I purchase aftermarket parts from Sierra, etc? I am one of the owners of a power sport business and we have accounts with Sierra and a large marine wholesaler here in BC, Canada so I can get discounts on parts. I am having trouble finding crossover part numbers on Sierra parts though. Is there a website that is helpful for that? The only ones I have found have very limited crossover part numbers. I'm looking for filters, serpentine belt, spark plugs, possibly injectors, etc

Thank you in advance for reading my post.

Chris
 
You have found one of the best websites that helps cross over OEM part numbers to aftermarket part numbers including Sierra.

Also the link to Volvo you posted/found if one of the best ways to ensure your starting your search for the correct parts, once you find the parts you need or desire there, copy and paste each number here in the part number search bar found at the top of this/each page and if there are aftermarket parts to be had for that item, you will find it here at Marine engine .com...If it's not listed, then OEM it is.

Your 2 fuel filters are listed to work for your engine and different microns offered and one area suggested to be careful with fitment length to some models

8.1GXi-EF is listed for your 3862228 number also 18-7789

That mentioned, 3847644 is what Volvo says to use/buy at the moment for the (your) 8.1GXi-EF too and that Sierra number is 18-8149... The difference you ask?... Most likely higher microns but in-turn 18-8149 = HIGHER CAPACITY FUEL WATER SEPARATING FILTER for water and fuel storage as it's bigger in size.
Replaces: Volvo 3847644
Fits most gasoline applications with electric fuel pump. (some height restrictions may occur when using with 18-7778, Volvo 3850861)
Sierra Marine 18-8149 - Fuel Filter, 3847644 is equivalent to parts:

  • 3847644 Volvo Penta
  • 8M0154758 Mercury Marine
https://www.marineengine.com/newparts/part_search.php?part_num=3847644

^Click over all the find more info of each brand and that will show you what sparks your interests.

So that becomes preference as all will work.

Within that Volvo website ought to be a place to input your serial number and it should help locate the correct service manual you could buy and/or get the part number of and search it out online or Ebay, etc. in which would help get the exact fuel psi but going off fading memory and not much more time to look it up online as I know the answer is already out there, I want to say it will be just over 50psi closer to 60.... 58 +or - a few psi is wanting to ring the bell.

The plan you mention of sounds good as something is better than nothing.... If at all possible, sometimes adding your own fuel supply say from a 5 gallon gas can to the engine to see if you get performance back is a way (one way of many) of testing the fuel system.

For the trim, does the trim pump motor run in that direction but doesn't move?
 
Thank you for all the information Fun Times!

I will try the Sierra 18-8149 filter on the fuel pump.

Are you suggesting that I run a fuel line into a 5 gallon can prior to the Racor to test fuel?

The down trim activates and the up trim does nothing. I’ll look into it shortly when I’m at the boat.
 
Update:

Swapped out the filters as Fun Times suggested.

Inspected the check valve outside the fuel tank and it appeared to be functioning. I was able to blow through it. I was not sure how to get the suction line out of the tank. The threaded elbow is welded to the tank (only threaded where check valve and fuel line attach).

Took it for a sea trial and it was running “better” for a minute or two before it seemed like it wasn’t getting enough fuel again and was only getting 3,200 RPMs. By the end of the sea trial it was down to 2,800.

I went and bought a fuel pressure gauge and it showed 10psi on the low pressure and 44psi at idle on high pressure and my partner said it dropped to 42psi when I brought the RPMs up.

I ran out of time to check the fuel pressure regulator (had a ferry to catch) but that is my next step. I am hoping to find some debris in the screen and solve the issue.

I will also be performing a sea trial with a separate jerry can of clean fuel to eliminate the possibility a plugged suction line in the fuel tank. I also removed the fuel fill cap while performing the sea trial to eliminate the possibility of a plugged vent. I suspect the water had been getting in around the fuel fill cap as the o ring had mostly deteriorated. I put a new o ring in.

After I inspect the pressure regulator and run a test with the separate fuel supply I will move on to the furl rail and injectors. Any suggestions??

Thank you
 
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