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Timing problem

All I do is take out the plugs

All I do is take out the plugs and ground them with the plug wires still hooked up to the plugs
Then I hook a timing light to #1 wire.
Open the throttle wide open and crank the motor and see where the timing is at and adjust it to the specs on your engine minus 2 degrees if you burn regular gas or on spec for high test
 
we burn regular with the oil m

we burn regular with the oil mix the problem is when we put it in the water and put it into gear the motor dies
 
You just adjust the stops!
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You just adjust the stops!
Look at where your throttle cable pulls and notice that at idle the arm is hitting one of the rubber nosed stops
That one sets your idle speed by adjusting your idle timing and not by opening the carb butterflies like you would think.
The carbs should not even be trying to open yet!
Set it so the timer moves just before the carbs do.
The adjustment just above is to set your carb butterflies flat at wide open throttle.
Now if you watch the timer move untill it hits a stop that is the one to set your max timing advance with which you should check anyway!
I find that if the carbs move before the timer the engine will fall on its face every time you try to take off!
 
"What is your idle speed, in t

"What is your idle speed, in the water in gear, should be about 650 to 700. If idle was set out of water using muffs it needs to be reset in the water because of back pressure."
 
"If you haven't changed th

"If you haven't changed the timing, what makes you think the timing is at fault? The timing is increased or decreased by loosening the 7/16" nut at the timing stop screw (screw with the rubber bumper) and can be set with the engine NOT running as follows.

(Timing At Cranking Speed 4°)
(J. Reeves)

NOTE: If your engine has the "Fast Start" feature", you must disconnect/eliminate that feature in order to use the following method. The "Fast Start" automatically advances the spark electronically when the engine first starts, dropping it to normal when the engine reaches a certain temperture.

The full spark advance can be adjusted without have the engine running at near full throttle as follows.

To set the timing on that engine, have the s/plugs out, and have the throttle at full, set that timer base under the flywheel tight against the rubber stop on the end of the full spark timer advance stop screw (wire it against that stop if necessary).

Rig a spark tester and have the gap set to 7/16". Hook up the timing light to the #1 plug wire. Crank the engine over and set the spark advance to 4° less than what the engine calls for.

I don't know the full spark advance setting your engine calls for, but to pick a figure, say your engine calls for 28°, set the timing at 24°. The reasoning for the 4° difference is that when the engine is actually running, due to the nature of the solid state ignition componets, the engine gains the extra 4°.

If you set the engine to its true setting at cranking speed, when running it will advance beyond its limit by 4° which will set up pre-ignition causing guaranteed piston damage! You don't want that to take place.

No need to be concerned about the idle timing as that will take care of itself. The main concern is the full advance setting.

Be sure to use your own engines spark advance settings, not the one I picked out of the air here in my notes.

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However...... before going into that, check compression and spark on all cylinders."
 
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