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Swap omc for Ford?

dsalch

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Hi! Looking for advice. I am a rank amateur in this field of marine.

We bought an old project deck boat with an omc 185 engine and stern drive . The engine is in poor shape. I have opportunity to buy a Ford 289 engine. Questions...

Will the Ford 289 fit to the original omc stern drive?

Would you recommend replacing the omc engine with the Ford or rebuilding the omc?


Thanks!
 
Distributor on the front is usually a FORD.-----What year boat ?----Model # ?
Here is what I know (attachment)

The dust is on the end opposite the water pump
 

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Sounds like GM engine.-----Should be easy to find a replacement.-------But do a complete evaluation on boat and drive before spending any beer tokens ( $$$$ ) on this project.
 
This is an OMC Stringer system are you sure you want to be putting money into it. They have not been made since 1985 and most mechanics can't or won't work on them. Parts aren't that easy to source either.
 
Can we get some specifics?

Basically what you are asking is a question of gear ratio of the outdrive. They should be matched. Some engines share gear ratios, so you need to figure out the gear ratio of your current outdrive and determine whether the gear ratio of that outdrive is compatible with the new motor.

Bullet list questions below for ease of copy paste.
  • Model number of current outdrive / engine
  • Model number for new engine
  • Boat model & year (not exactly necessary, but I like to know)
Just something to consider: I agree with Lou, if you have the coin an upgrade is a wise choice. Just an option you may not be aware of if you are new to boats, they make brackets for the conversion to an outboard that are not crazy expensive.

I am going through a full rebuild on a boat that required the outdrive to be redone. I thought it was going to be cheaper but the unexpected items that needed replaced drove the cost way above budget to the point that I could have just upgraded to a used outdrive for a few hundred dollars more or perhaps the same price.

Single outboard brackets like the one below are cheapest. If you get a dual engine bracket, or one with a swim deck that will cost more. You just need to make sure the bracket matches the horsepower, so perhaps buy the bracket after the engine?

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The other advantages that you can consider with this option are:

1.getting rid of the engine block from the inboard outboard frees up a great deal of deck space. You can put a bench seat or a live well where the engine is currently.
2.No more running the blower before startup.
3.If/ when it is time for replacement that is much easier.
4.Most people now would prefer to have an outboard setup. Things were different when your boat was built, inboard outboards provided more power and reliability than outboards in the 80s. Now outboards have gotten bigger and better, and because they are easier to swap out people just seem prefer them. So if you intend to sell this boat some day when you are ready to move onto something bigger or newer you will have increased the value of the boat somewhat.
5. because it is so much easier to change motors you can get an old one on craigslist and upgrade it in a couple years when it makes more sense. If you get the bracket that has the extra space for a trolling/ emergency motor then you can get an older engine without fear of being stranded on the lake since the backup/ trolling motor will get you back to the launch ramp.
6. No more removing the outdrive at the end of season to check bellows.
 
Can we get some specifics?

Basically what you are asking is a question of gear ratio of the outdrive. They should be matched. Some engines share gear ratios, so you need to figure out the gear ratio of your current outdrive and determine whether the gear ratio of that outdrive is compatible with the new motor.

Bullet list questions below for ease of copy paste.
  • Model number of current outdrive / engine
  • Model number for new engine
  • Boat model & year (not exactly necessary, but I like to know)
Just something to consider: I agree with Lou, if you have the coin an upgrade is a wise choice. Just an option you may not be aware of if you are new to boats, they make brackets for the conversion to an outboard that are not crazy expensive.

I am going through a full rebuild on a boat that required the outdrive to be redone. I thought it was going to be cheaper but the unexpected items that needed replaced drove the cost way above budget to the point that I could have just upgraded to a used outdrive for a few hundred dollars more or perhaps the same price.

Single outboard brackets like the one below are cheapest. If you get a dual engine bracket, or one with a swim deck that will cost more. You just need to make sure the bracket matches the horsepower, so perhaps buy the bracket after the engine?

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The other advantages that you can consider with this option are:

1.getting rid of the engine block from the inboard outboard frees up a great deal of deck space. You can put a bench seat or a live well where the engine is currently.
2.No more running the blower before startup.
3.If/ when it is time for replacement that is much easier.
4.Most people now would prefer to have an outboard setup. Things were different when your boat was built, inboard outboards provided more power and reliability than outboards in the 80s. Now outboards have gotten bigger and better, and because they are easier to swap out people just seem prefer them. So if you intend to sell this boat some day when you are ready to move onto something bigger or newer you will have increased the value of the boat somewhat.
5. because it is so much easier to change motors you can get an old one on craigslist and upgrade it in a couple years when it makes more sense. If you get the bracket that has the extra space for a trolling/ emergency motor then you can get an older engine without fear of being stranded on the lake since the backup/ trolling motor will get you back to the launch ramp.
6. No more removing the outdrive at the end of season to check bellows.
I like this approach.... Didn't know it was easy to convert to outboard. How would I find info on doing this?
 
Keep in mind this is only price competitive to replacing your engine if you are looking into a used, somewhat older unit. The new stuff is spendy! Make sure the area you plan to use the boat in will allow 2 stroke engines before you consider buying one of those.

What model of boat is it? Is it Fiberglass or Aluminum? The process will involve closing up the hole int the transom that was left behind when the outdrive comes out. You will likely want to reinforce it as well. Its a lot of labor and the resin is expensive, just things to look out for. Marine ply is not cheap either. The video below gives a quick overview of what the process is like without going to far in depth.


What kind of horsepower do you need? Is it a larger boat?

As far as where to get the bracket you could try ebay. For more detailed information you need to do a lot of research for yourself reading through threads of what other people have done. You may have to post a few specific questions when you get stuck. You will need to figure out the details for your specific situation.

I recommend you do cost comparison if price is a major concern. Your specific situation will have a different set of needs. My situation for instance ended up being more expensive because I had old components that needed replaced, that I didn't discover until I got into the project. If your outdrive is in good condition and you can get a good price on a new engine that works with that outdrive and that's what you can afford there is no shame in doing that if budget dictates.
 
I’m curious if you did anymore research on this and if you made any decisions yet. It’s a deep subject so I wouldn’t be surprised if you are still doing research and seeing what the outboard market is like. Anyhow I hope the project is going well!
 
Ford & Chevy use different bell housings. Easiest & cheapest is another Chevy small block. Don't try to reinvent the wheel.
 
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