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Stuffing box decision

bobct

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"I know this is slightly off t

"I know this is slightly off topic but interested in getting some advice here. As is usually the case, my bonding system clean-up led me to another problem area.

Mark, thanks for the replies on that, I can see where the shaft log was originally bonded which was one of the three shaft log bolts. The previous owners just threw a clamp on instead.

The pic shows my setup with the hose cut away. I tried to size it as large as I could w/o going over the 100k limit.

I have at least one broken bolt on each shaft log and if you look closely, the shaft is off center on this side by at least 1/2". I didn't have any vibration during the sea trial.

When I bought the boat, both stuffing boxes were leaking like crazy and were beyond tightening. I cut away both hoses yesterday to see what my plan of action would be.

I was going to install a PSS dripless setup (and still might) but now wondering if I need to replace the shaft logs too.

1) If I do need to replace the logs, are they likely sealed with 5200 or something similar? I'm picturing hours of trying to remove them but maybe I'm over thinking it. I have to deal with the broken bolts either way.

2) Does the fact that the shaft is off center necessarily mean the alignment is off? I tightened the engine mounts a couple of months ago but didn't shift anything around.

3) The alignment part seems to be a little bit of a black art and I'm afraid to create a problem that I don't think I have at the moment.

Both shafts rotate easily by hand which I read is a good indication that the alignment is good or very close. That is true in my case.

Bolts aside, do shaft logs go bad (aside from corrosion)? If I understand it correctly, the log provides a surface for the shaft hose to clamp to and allows water into the hose for cooling. There's really no "wear" component.

Any thoughts appeciated.


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"Bob:

Those style logs are


"Bob:

Those style logs are put in with a sealer or some may have gaskets. I'd be inclined to 5200 them.

Alignments.....here's mmy understanding. There are several things that must be aligned. Some are independent, some aren't. Until they are all lined up, a tradition straight shaft/stuffing box system will leak. Based on your picture, the shaft-log alignment is off. I've never seen a spec but would entertain fixing it if it is 1/2" offset.

The shaft turning easily indicates the shaft-strut bearing is nominally aligned. If the strut bearing has a lot of wear in the 'pitch' plane, this indicator mmay be false.

Logs don't wear as you noted. Besides corrosion, I don't see any need to replace them UNLESS they have been subject to 'wear' due to improper install/operation. I think Al can ellaborate as he has a tee shirt or two from this contest.

There have been a few posts were alignment has been discussed and I remember a few linked articles in them. Mmay wanna try searching the Crusader board for 'alignmment'. As time permits, I'll see what's in the archive and email you anything worthwhile."
 
"Bob,

Mark is right. A tee-


"Bob,

Mark is right. A tee-shirt for each side! Our alignment was SO off track that the shaft had been turning against the shaft log and wore a hole intot he side of the pass thru area. Had any of the clamps or hose failed, we would have had big problems. We solved or dilema by keeping the same shaft log maounting holes, replaced both shaft logs, and re-aligned the engine, shaft and strut plane as Mark put it so everything was centered. Ours is v-drive so it was more cramped as a work space but with a few suggestions from all here...It has been another job well-done.

Our 1 1/4" shafts pass thru a 2 1/4 inch (approx) shaft log so they were off by alot. Additionally the cutlass bearings were worn significantly and probably more by the mis-aligned shaft than by usage. As a result, our shafts rotated easily also but you could easily see that the cutlass bearing and shaft log provided zero resistance due to wear and not alignment

Personally, I think the alignment job was a BIG PITA. A former marina manager told me he has seen them "spring apart" when the coupler was freed.

I cannot read the captions in the picture but I can see the offset of the shaft/log position."
 
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