Ok so thanks for asking about how the LU oil looks. I totally forgot a sizable piece of information, so I've been getting water in the LU for 10+years, it usually has a slight Carmel look to it when I drain it at end of season. The last time the water pump was done by my pops 10+ years ago and he said the kit was missing the bottom seal that the pump sits on so we just reused the old one, bad idea I know, I just found this out recently. At the same time my pops did a prop shaft seal and prop shaft itself checked out good. The LU has had a small amount of water in it ever since and my old man wasnt too worried about it besides making sure it got drained out at end of every season, before it got cold. My grandfather left me the boat back in 1995, we brought it back from the Mississippi river and it was used 1-5times a year at our up north camp and now that I've moved out on my own I finally was able to go grab it and now have the boat with me where I live. I'm sort of picking up a project with some background info on it which I guess is more than some others have to work with. And yes when she popped into reverse it was interesting since I was standing on bow untieing rope from dock and almost went over into 45-50* water. Thanks for the quick replys and reminder. This forum is great and helped me a ton last year when I did the head gasket, exhaust cover gasket, ignition troubleshooting and carb rebuild, just an old boat I guess once I got it running tops last year this happened, probably 100% results from greatly overlooking the need for water pump replacement and chasing down water in LU. Thanks guys will keep this updated.