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Can I use a high quality filer

Can I use a high quality filer (Fram auto) on my 305 V8 230hp. Its seems silly to spend $10.00 on a $5.00 filter. Is there any difference between Marine/Auto oil filters?

Thanks
Rick
 
"Yes, $5. There are several it

"Yes, $5. There are several items that are different on marinized engines. Oil filter is not one of them."
 
"Rick, electronic parts are th

"Rick, electronic parts are the most changed when you talk marine or auto. never use auto electrical parts in marine use as they are not spark protected. other parts use different metals for corosion protection, filters as you stated are the same except for pricing. not that many filter makers, just alot of paint for housings."
 
"Thanks Rick,
With fall now i

"Thanks Rick,
With fall now in full swing and the boating season quicly coming to an end, I was wondering the same thing. I have the same engine.
James Taylor"
 
""Fram" and "high

""Fram" and "high quality" do not belong is the same sentence. Frams are junk. Cut one apart. they have cardboard (instead of steel) end caps that can and do come apart. They have a cheap valve that often sticks. They have even been subject to recalls for splitting open. Fram chooses to spend its money on advertising not quality. Try Wix, Baldwin, or Mercury. Even STP or Walmart brands perform better than Fram."
 
Really.... Fram filters are ju

Really.... Fram filters are junk? I wonder how many manufactures there are for oil filters? I figured most are made in the same factory with a different paint job. I wonder if consumers reports ever did a test. Anybody know?
 
"There is a big difference bet

"There is a big difference between various individual brands, enough so that it is clear that they are made to the same dimensions but are of very different construction. Some of the generic store brands are made by the larger companies. I agree with Adam somewhat. Fram has a loyal following but is not a "super filter" as many believe. I use the premium Purolator, PureONE filters. They cost a dollar more than their regular filters which brings the price to a wopping $5 at a local discount department store.

One thing about really good oil filters is that there is no demand for them nowadays. Baldwin used to offer a premium filter that had cotton spun inside. They were the best I have ever seen but they discontinued making them due to lack of sales and now only sell their standard pleated paper filters. Advances in oil additive packages put in by modern oil manufacturers, now up to API-SM rating, are so great that with adaquet changes engines easily last 30 years with the cheapest filters. You do have to keep that oil changed though."
 
"Folks if it filters the oil,

"Folks if it filters the oil, it does it;s job, Fram is fine, you do not need to over kill a oil filter.

To much hype put into oil filters."
 
"Jeff:

You have a valid poi

"Jeff:

You have a valid point. But so does everyone else. For myself, I want the best filtration for my engines under $10. If I spend $200 on filters over 10 years, I hope that the investment in filters provides my engines with some longer life with less reduction in part wear. To each his own but for me it's the best."
 
Last year and about 10 hours i

Last year and about 10 hours into an oil change I noticed a drop in oil pressure on my starboard engine. The fram filter I used collapsed internally. A new filter brought my pressure back to normal. If this condition had gone unoticed I could have suffered a major engine breakdown.
 
""Folks if it filters the

""Folks if it filters the oil, it does it;s job, Fram is fine, you do not need to over kill a(n) oil filter. To(o) much hype put into oil filters"

All you have to do is cut one apart or look on the internet and see someone who has done it for you. For the same price you can buy a decent filter. Speaking of "hype" that is apparently what Fram does with the money they save on manufacturing. They heavily advertise their product. Apparently a lot of people fall for it. These filters are known for collapsing, bypassing or worse yet splitting open their flimsy cans pumping out the crankcase all over the road or bilge."
 
"I had to jump into this one.

"I had to jump into this one.
This is a copy of information that I emailed to James Taylor privately a couple of days ago.
"I have only ever used Merc filters, and I would recommend you do the same, for the minor price difference. I cut the first one from my 6.2 open after breakin this season (to look for metal bits and other debris) and I can tell you that they are built differently than a standard auto oil filter.
The filter media is a 3 layer material with a very fine satin-like outer layer that will collect more smaller particles than a standard auto single layer cardboard media.
I figure that oil and filters are pretty cheap compared to most other boating expenses, so why not use what is recommended?

By the way, if yours is a top mounted filter, the easy way to drain it is to drive a nail hole or two thru the top right after you pull the sump drain plug.
Then after 15 minutes or so the filter will be empty and you can unscrew it with minimal mess. Otherwise you will have oil everywhere."

Just my thoughts.
Rod"
 
Rod:

I've been waiting

Rod:

I've been waiting for your two cents on the oil filter discussion. Excellent retort w/evidence.
Three cheers and free beers.

I would think this discussion can be closed with a finding of "to each his own preference" for oil filters since the evidence for all filters has been placed on the witness stand for all to view and refute. Your choice; case closed.
 
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