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Why wouldn't I admit it? I honestly came to the forum for help, also to the site to purchase parts when needed.

I did exactly and only what I said, it was THAT SIMPLE, reason I don't know what could have happened. I took 5 bolts out, lower unit dropped 4", I have never attempted anything like this so how was I to know it wasn't supposed to drop that far? The guy that I ran into that told me to check the lower unit for sand, because motor was sluggish said this, easy to drop the lower unit, I've done it, take 4 bolts out is all you need to do. I BELIEVED HIM. So, I drained lower unit oil, took 4 bolts out, it didn't move, saw center bolt, took it off and unit dropped about 4 inches, I even tried to pull it off.

Wouldn't come off so just shined light in to see no sand, with neighbor's help with all this, we pushed unit back up, bolted it in place, and noticed would not go into neutral.

So I came here looking for help, which I have gotten but also have been belittled because of using a wrong part name, then cursed out when I asked why he had to be so mean.

I know NOTHING about a boat motor, I was in law enforcement 36 years, not a mechanic, now have a disability that make it hard to even get in and out of the boat. But this little, old boat is one of the few "pleasures" I have, and even though I have said it, I will ONE LAST TIME, I NEVER meant to upset an expert trying to help me, that would be quite ignorant. But I felt belittled just because I didn't know a part name.

If you feel this forum and page is fine for someone to belittle, curse you out, I'm not sorry to say I disagree.
 
Describe the " centre bolt " that you removed .--Describe the screw that was removed to drain the oil.----------Was it plain or a philipps screw?------Did you remove a screw using a philipps screwdriver ?------It is important to present details and facts !----On 2 different forums you started and failed to tell volunteer helpers your model number !
 
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Not sure why my reply disappeared, but why would I do that and wonder what is wrong?

OK, I found the problem, and I asked this question a few times, the rod is loose from the bottom of the lower unit, not the top.

I removed the 2 screws where the rod goes into the lower unit and the unit came off, it is not attached inside the lower unit.
 
As said a few times already, the rod WILL NOT allow you to drop the unit more than one inch or so, just enough to slide a screwdriver and loosen the clamp for removal. When you pulled it down, you engaged the gear, and then when you kept pulling down, you disengaged the rod from the clamp, which must have been kinda lose in the first place.
Good news is now you can learn how to put it back together. Not always as easy as it seems, it takes sometimes more than one try before you get the rod right where it needs to be to match with the reverse/neutral/forward positions of the selector. Patience is key here.
 
I was asked model number a couple of days ago, I am sure, NO, right now I am sure of little, but thought I posted it. It is E50TLEO.

To drain oil I removed 2 screws, one top, one bottom, one phillips, one straight.

The center bolt to remove lower unit, under where the 4 bolts were removed.

It looks like, I AM JUST PURELY GUESSING, the bottom of the rod is held in place by the bottom drain plug I removed?? If so, sounds like a simple fix, but hah, I have no idea to line it up to attach it.
 
just me said:
To drain oil I removed 2 screws, one top, one bottom, one phillips, one straight.
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This is bad news. Sounds like you disconnected the shifter dog, and I believe the only way to reconnect that (experts will correct me if I'm wrong) is by pulling the entire prop shaft from the bottom, as it is located behind it.
Afraid it is not a job for a novice unfortunately for you.... lower unit rebuilding takes knowledge, and a bunch of special tools for accessing very intricate areas.
At the cost of labor, you might want to start looking for a used unit online.

Here is the warning abut that phillips screw from Leroy's rambling:
Checking & or Changing Lower Unit Oil : [FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Here are two flat headed screwdriver slotted stainless plug screws, one in the front bottom of the right hand side of the lower unit (gear case) with the other above it by 6 to 7”. The lowest is the fill plug while the top one is an indicator of when the unit is full.
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[FONT=&quot]There is another round headed #2 Phillips headed screw above and forward the lowest flat headed slotted lower drain plug screw, DO NOT TAKE THIS PHILLIPS SCREW OUT. This Phillips screw is the pivot for the internal shifting mechanism in the lower gearcase.If you take this screw out, then the whole lower unit MAY have to be disassembled to locate, reassemble the parts internally using a special assembly tool.[/FONT]
 
just me said:
well, that's what I did, still don't see why it would be that hard to line up and put the screw back in
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But it is.
The "dog" (the part that links the rod to the gear selector) is now fallen out of place inside the bottom of the unit, therefore you CANNOT line up with it through the screw hole anymore.
The unit has to be taken apart so you can go "fishing" for this dog (with one of the special lower unit tools mentioned above) so it can be lined up with the screw again.....

To fully understand this, you have to see a unit taken apart or a drawing of an exploded view.
 
Well , well---As I suspected somebody removed the shifter fork pin.---------It is now time to consult the experts.---------I do not have the time to instruct a novice on how to re-assemble this correctly.------Well maybe a couple of cases of beer on the doorstep and I might.----Sorry , you have been slow to provide information and I asked sometime ago about that pivot pin !!
 
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By pivot pin I thought you as others was referring to where the rod was attached behind the carburetor as this was mentioned over and over. No one ever said anything about this bolt being removed or calling a bolt a pin.
 
We asked you in the first 10 posts , read them if you will !!!-------What was done to get this lower unit to drop 4 inches.------Sorry , ---I believe you are now faced with a repair bill of a few hundred dollars to get the lower unit assembled correctly.---------------But you also need to address the issue that was wrong with your motor that made you take the lower unit off in error.------------And perhaps this motopr is not even worth fixing depending on why it will not accelerate properly !!.---Trouble shooting needs to be done !!-----Amazing how folks could try to help you from say 1000 miles away and you started doubting !
 
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I DID NOT KNOW this pin/bolt was what caused it to drop 4 inches, I thought it was just a drain plug. If I had known I would have never asked the question.
 
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