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Johnson 60ESL71C shift select mod in place of broken shift switch

abcjoyride

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Hello,
I have seen a mod to use in place of the shift select switch in the remote control..... The mod was on a simliar type but 115hp..... Will the toggle switch mod for neutral and reverse work on mine as the switch has broken internally and i see the cost to replace it ranges from stupid to obscene!

I understand there is no liability on the part of anyone who helps in any way.

Any help appreciated.
Thanks
 
Super simple and cheap. Of course we could go into all the reasons not to do it, but you are going to do it anyway, right? Let's just hope nobody gets hurt.
 

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Super simple and cheap. Of course we could go into all the reasons not to do it, but you are going to do it anyway, right? Let's just hope nobody gets hurt.

Thanks for reply fdrgator and wiring diagram. Yep i would imagine so. Unless you or someone out there has a reasonable priced switch i can buy. The prices for these things are ridiculous!!! As a side question has anyone hurt themselves or busted up equipment doing it this way?

I thought even with toggle switch mod the gear case will have to go thru neutral to get reverse. The pump will pump at the same rate so the gears will stop before engaging and reversing? That was my understanding of the brilliance of these (the first of the fly by wire) engines....granted not ideal to do tho lol!
 
In reply to a couple of questions. Of course, I don't have any documentation proving injuries or mishaps. But I gotta say that even as built at the factory the "fail-safe" feature wasn't all that safe. It is supposed to go into forward gear if something fails so you can get home. Problem is, it may fail and go into forward or be in forward at a most inconvenient time and run over something or somebody.

Back to the toggle switch fix. Yes it goes through neutral as it goes between forward and reverse---but it does that almost instantly, whether by toggle switch or in the case of original system, yanking the handle back. Where the toggle gets real interesting is it is possible (easy?) to flip the switch at 40 MPH.

Sure it will work. But look out for the lawyers when you have an accident. They will go after you big time if you have modified the system.
 
Like one of those flip over safety switch covers? Was checking that out yesterday at electronics store. Im about to nut out the problem with electrician to see about 2 straight on/off switch's. 1 for neutral and forward. 1 For reverse with safety switch cover. I fig that way at best an accidental knock may cause an over rev!
 
(Toggle Shift Switch Setup For The Hydro Electric Shift Unit)
(J. Reeves)

NOTE (Disclaimer) - The following toggle setup will suffice BUT it is extremely dangerous. Should you use it, you are agreeing to use it at your own risk with myself disavowing any responsibility for its design or use.

Due to the unavailability of the "Push Button" (Evinrude) or "Toggle Type" (Johnson) shift switch that is required for the "Hydro Electric Shift" type lower units that existed between 1968 and 1972, many boaters have asked how they could rig up a toggle switch to perform this shifting function. There may be much better solutions but the following is what I and another member have come up with.

One must keep in mind that wiring a toggle switch in such a manner allows one to accidently shift from forward to reverse at full throttle. This could and probably has resulted in injuries to boaters, not to mention the mechanical damage. Should this or any other problems arise/occur, I, nor any other member are in no way to be held responsible for the toggle switch to shift switch replacement mentioned here.


For the above reason, I strongly suggest that the toggle switch have a hinged hard case cover installed over it so that the toggle can never be thrown/toggled accidentally.


Now, with a Single Pole Double Throw toggle switch installed so the "Green" wire connection is facing up or away from you, make the following connections to the terminals on the back of the toggle switch. A diagram exists at the bottom of this explanation.


......O <--- Green Wire


......O <--- 12 volt Supply


......O <--- Blue Wire


Now, between the Green wire and Blue wire terminal on the toggle switch, connect a diode capable of handling 12 volts (available at Radio Shack etc). Be sure to install the diode so that the voltage will travel from the Blue wire connection to the Green wire connection only...... and not vice versa!


Now, if you have installed the switch as above, with the toggle pulled all the way back (towards yourself), contact will be made between the 12v supply and the Green connection. This puts the unit in Neutral. The diode prevents any voltage from gaining access to the Blue connection.


Pushing the toggle lever to the middle position results in no voltage being supplied to either wire. This results in the spring loaded clutch shifter dog in the lower unit throwing the unit into forward gear.


Pushing the toggle switch lever all the way to the front position will have the center 12 volt supply connected to the Blue wire connection, and due to the diode, that 12 volt supply will also be supplied to the Green wire. This results in having the unit in reverse gear.

The Double Pole Double Throw toggle designed by another member is a easier setup to wire (diagram below). It simply depends on what type toggle switch you have.

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