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Johnson 1969 55 Electric shift

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bb46

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I just got this boat cheap and

I just got this boat cheap and it has a 55 Johnson that I believe is a 1969 55 horse.

Did thses come with electric shift? The boat had a Selectric evinrude control box on the floor along with another version. The motor aparently wasn't on the boat originally and in fact has never been running on this boat.

I did a quick look and didn't see a place for a shift cable to hook up so I'm guessing electric shift.

Does anybody know?

Thanks.

B
 
"yes,elect shift.....johnson u

"yes,elect shift.....johnson used a roller sw,evin used push buttons.

-* technically,....it is a hydro-electric shift"
 
Thats good info. I'm sure

Thats good info. I'm sure I'll have questions trying to get it to work. Are they pretty bullet proof or is there a good chance the thing is messed up?

Thanks.

BB46
 
"they can be costly to repair,

"they can be costly to repair,get it running .
the system needs power from the electrical portion of the engine.then check for proper operation/engagement of the dogs on the gears,in the case.you wont have a good representation of how well its working until its in the water.
personally i had problems with reverse
{worn dogs}.slipping.that was on a 72 50 hp."
 
"Thanks, So, battery power won

"Thanks, So, battery power won't work to shift it? It looks like the controls have add on non stock switches. Do the switches need to stay closed of do you just bump the switch and it will stay in that gear until another switch is bumped?

Thanks.

BB46"
 
"i am a little rusty on the su

"i am a little rusty on the subject but here goes,
when the engine is off it outomaticly goes into
forward gear.when you start,(crank it goes in neautral with button in (n)of course.
then from a running point of view just forward,reverse. as normal.the reason it goes into forward when off is ,no power (a fail safe)
in case of electronic /stator /charge problem.
you will get home.
the gear case needs to be turning for gears to (dogs)mesh .you may or may not hear a clicking sound with just a battery,
(from solinoid in gear case)
i hope i am being clear enough it has been over 15 yrs since i played with one of those."
 
"the unit,....is spring loaded

"the unit,....is spring loaded in forward gear.in neutral,one solenoid is activated,to chg hyd fluid flow,then,when in rev,both solenoids are activated,causing all pump pressure fluid,pushing plunger to rear,causing it to engage in rev gear...this unit,is dependant,upon,12 V and hyd pressure to wk..."
 
"You guys are good. You explai

"You guys are good. You explained pretty darn well CH.

Also, from what I got the solenoid is in the lower unit. I was kinda thinking it was below power head. Lower unit sounds far better.

Thanks.

BB46"
 
"OK Guys, Made some gains but

"OK Guys, Made some gains but found more problems.
Got the motor turning over, No spark when it turns over. BUT!!! When I turn the key to the on position the spark plug sparks. Every time. Then role it over and get no spark.

Not sure if I have it wired right. The wiring plug in from the controls plugs in fine but is yellow. The motor side is black. Does that make a differance?

It looks like it has a newer ignition box on it. Gets me to believe same problem causes that to be changed and when it didn't work they gave up.

HELP!!! Give me some ideas.

Thanks.

BB46"
 
"un plug the harness (cont

"un plug the harness (control box to engine)
jump solinoid check for spark/try to start.
if that works for you ,your wireing at the box may be bass akwards.
i dont know about the plug color ,but i am sure it can be made to work"
 
"I was thinking something like

"I was thinking something like that. Also, I forgot to say, When I turn teh key on there is a light and not very loude whine sound somewhere. I listened but couldn't pin down where it was coming from. Thinking possibly evectric shift sol.

Just a guess.

B"
 
those plugs are color coded...

those plugs are color coded.........it will take some doin but im sure you can rewire it. it may be easier to get the correct control box.

dont forget youll have to choke it to kil it with the plug undone
 
I didn't get a real clear

I didn't get a real clear answer on how long the motor had been sitting. Suspose to not rain tomorrow so will be out tinkering with it again tomorrow. I'll keep posting my progress.

I have the black control side plug available but there are no controls on the control end. Just the switches and and wire ends. I'll have to study that a bit more tomorrow too and see if I can figure out a differance.

It does sound to me like wires are crossed.

I appreciate all the help. Those wiring diagrams should really help Thanks.

B
 
"Well,, I still have no clue.

"Well,, I still have no clue. I believe the quiet whine is coming from the stator area under the flywheel. I don't know if it's part of the charging system or the ignition system but I'm guessing ignition.

I traced the power wire to the ignition box. (Purple) It is butt connected into the red wire of the ignition box. (Powerpack??? bolted to right rear lower part of motor)

The blue wire coming out of the box shows no power as motor is turned over. (Don't know if it should) I would think somewhere along the line the coil should have and show some power on it's primary side shouldn't it?

I also don't know much about the color coding of the wire plug ins but I would just think out of logic that the basic ignition wirinf shouldn't have changed much but the accessories package on motors, Like the hydra shift) would be different and make it a yellow instead of black. (Thats just my logic though)

Anyway, What color wire goes from stator to coil? Does anybody remember? Also do the stator wires go up the right or left side of the motor if standing behind the motor looking at teh bow? This is an old motor and may not be worth a whole lot of effort. I bet it burns alot of gas too. That vintage seemed to burn more than the newer (80's if you can call that newer. LOL) 2 strokes.

Thanks guys. I know,, Alot of questions. Sorry.

B"
 
"Hey,, another strange develop

"Hey,, another strange developement. I was just out dinking with it and when I poked the gray wire with teh black stripe that goes up under the flywheel it fired a couple times. If I hold the test light on the wire it doesn't fire. If I don't have my test light on it it won't fire but if I just skim my light on it it will fire. Not enough to run but it will fire. I bared the wire and I can skim the test light electrode on that wire real lightly it will fire. Enough to see smoke out exhaust and actually hear it fire.

I don't know if the stator or anything up under the flywheel needs power but the other side of the upper motor under flywheel is where the whine and spart noise comes from when I turn the key on. I'm guessing thats charging side???

B"
 
you will have to pull the flyw

you will have to pull the flywheel and check the points and go through your wires for proper connections.there should not be any funny noises coming from any place. the solinoid for shifting is in the gear case.
the master plugs differ but with some skill and proper equipment/parts you can make it work.
it is a fairly simple system.
 
"I posted a couple more times

"I posted a couple more times (Or tried to) but they apparently never made it on here. One stated I forgot the vintage on this thing and remembered it probably has points. I had to go build a flywheel puller and did get the flywheel pulled off but it's dark now.

There is a black plastic cover looking thing inside what I believe to be thet stator. Does that plastic thing pull off to allow access to teh points or do I need to pull the stator? I think there were 3 phillips screws holding it on. On top of the plastic piece it said point gap was suspose to be .010.

Man, this seems like alot of work considering I don't even know if the lower unit will shift. LOL One step at a time I guess.

BB46"
 
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