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Snapperthego

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Hi every one reading this. I am new here and dont know much about motors. So need advice if thats ok. I have a yr2000 130hp Johnson ocean pro I havent started my motor for over a year. I know that not good of me. Anyway I have tried to start it I thought it had fuel but it seemed after 2 hours off and on it didnt start. I empytied the water feul separater then put it back I put 30 litre of fuel into my 150 litre tank under the floor. Their seems to me to still not get any fuel to the motor. It tried squeezing the thingy ill call it the Fuel bowl pumper. It was not filling up. I noticed the water fuel seperater was not filling up either. So I filled this up with fuel mixed with oil then sqeezed the thingy fuel bowl pumper in then scewed the seperater back it seem to work. It started to fill up then tried to start the motor it started for a second many times for about an hour lots of smoke poor neibours. The thingy fuel bowl pumper was not drawing fuel to replace the fuel that was their. The next day I removed the seperator again and made sure it was full to the brim and with extra choke it started for a little longer then after half hour it started to run but i had to manually pump fuel into the thingy (fuelbowl pumper) to keep it going. I have alway had it serviced but have moved to another state and dont trust that they will tell what wrong without paying a big bill though simply to fix. I carnt seem to find the manuel after shifting . The boat is keept ourside.Cheers any advice appreciated..
 
The "Fuel Bowl Pumper" is actualy called a "Fuel Primer Bulb". Install another one between the fuel supply and the fuel/water seperator.... this will allow fuel to be pulled easily from the fuel tank to fill the fuel/water seperator etc. After this process, you can prime the engine with fuel via the original fuel primer bulb.

Having a engine sit for over a year.... the carburetors are no doubt somewhat fouled and require cleaning. However, you may be lucky and not need to go the carburetor rebuilding route.

If you do manage to get the engine running BUT need to constantly pump the fuel primer bulb in order to keep it running, that would indicate a fuel pump problem.

If you have pumped the oil primer bulb quite a few times, that would pump excessive oil to the carburetors.... also if you have a habit of running the engine out of gas when you're thru with it (a no no!), that would also result in excessive oil being supplied to the engine.
 
thx for the reply it seem to me it is either I dont have enough fuel in the tank still or its a fuel pump problem any ideas what the fuel pump looks like. Could it be I still dont have enough fuel? So will the original bulb be between the fule tank and the fuel/ water /seperator? what is priming the engine can you elaborate. My wife say A diagram would ge great lol. AS I have no idea about engines but I like to try. Many thx.
 
joereeves said:
The "Fuel Bowl Pumper" is actualy called a "Fuel Primer Bulb". Install another one between the fuel supply and the fuel/water seperator.... this will allow fuel to be pulled easily from the fuel tank to fill the fuel/water seperator etc. After this process, you can prime the engine with fuel via the original fuel primer bulb.

Having a engine sit for over a year.... the carburetors are no doubt somewhat fouled and require cleaning. However, you may be lucky and not need to go the carburetor rebuilding route.

If you do manage to get the engine running BUT need to constantly pump the fuel primer bulb in order to keep it running, that would indicate a fuel pump problem.

If you have pumped the oil primer bulb quite a few times, that would pump excessive oil to the carburetors.... also if you have a habit of running the engine out of gas when you're thru with it (a no no!), that would also result in excessive oil being supplied to the engine.
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thx for the reply it seem to me it is either I dont have enough fuel in the tank still or its a fuel pump problem any ideas what the fuel pump looks like. Could it be I still dont have enough fuel? So will the original bulb be between the fule tank and the fuel/ water /seperator? what is priming the engine can you elaborate. My wife say A diagram would ge great lol. AS I have no idea about engines but I like to try. Many thx.​
 
You ask "what is priming the engine can you elaborate?"

Priming the engine with fuel..... the fuel primer bulb must be pumped up until it is hard (HARD!). This guarantees that the fuel lines, fuel pump, all carburetors, anything that should have fuel in it, is as full as it should be to start the engine.

Fuel pump is on that engine probably a VRO pump which mixes the oil and gasoline. Inquire from the original owner if he/she has bypassed this VRO pump. If bypassed, you will be required to mix the oil and gasoline yourself.... NOT KNOWING this one way or the other will result in a serious expensive mistake so make sure that you're aware of whether the VRO pump is in effect or not!

Trace the fuel line at the engine in to the fuel pump, VRO, whatever is there. It will be the very first thing the fuel line runs into. A VRO will be a large black plastic unit with three hoses attached to the bottom of it and one at the top of it that will lead to the carburetor manifold. If the VRO function is in effect, there will be a oil line (smallest hose) attached to it which will lead to a oil tank somewhere in the boat.

It would be a good idea to obtain a service manual for that engine from this site... and study it before simply jumping in that boat and taking off. There's an old saying that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing and this holds true pertaining to that engine... learn all you can about it first.
 
Ok I have done that its hard then when the motor runs its use the fuel in that bulb then run our motor stops. I can manuelly keep it going by primming (as you put it) further. I have had this boat for 8 years now so I dont see VRO?? is connected to the problem not sure. This boat does have a seperate bottle that it automatically mixes it to geather I dont know how my self but thats what I just do fill the tank with petrol and fill the oil tank. Before answering the rest of your reply I might just try and find that manual on this site and study my boat, wish me good providence!:rolleyes:
 
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I think I know what you are talking about the second part of the reply . yes the motor I have 2000 J130vxsss it mixes the fuel automaticly. I am going to get more fuel into the tank when my wife gets home and see if the fuel is low and not getting the best presure . I have to wait too for my two sons who are asleep and hope my neibours dont mind me starting the motor.cheers many thx.
p.s Idid notice when I scewed the carby cover off ther whre two thin hoses that may have been conected to this cover I hope one at the bottom right just a hole and another on the opposite a nipple. well ill just put them into their if not they have come off some where air hoses I hope. he he he.
 
Ok made new ground since last time. I put another 15 litre of fuel in my 140 litre tank. After 7 minuets of running and manuelly priming the bulb every 1 to 2 minuets I was thinking it not the amount of fuel its was till loosing fuel from the fuel primer bulb and not refilling on its own then on the 8th time it was hard. You beuty, and then the next time it was still hard then I leaned over to see their was splattering of dark black oil coming out of the prop with the water? That doesnt look good Ive never seen that before? Am I in trouble? not good I think. What do you think anyone?? cheers thx for your time .
 
If you are running in the driveway then that oil leaking at the prop-----Is normal !!----------It is from the fuel mix.
 
joereeves said:
The "Fuel Bowl Pumper" is actualy called a "Fuel Primer Bulb". Install another one between the fuel supply and the fuel/water seperator.... this will allow fuel to be pulled easily from the fuel tank to fill the fuel/water seperator etc. After this process, you can prime the engine with fuel via the original fuel primer bulb.

Having a engine sit for over a year.... the carburetors are no doubt somewhat fouled and require cleaning. However, you may be lucky and not need to go the carburetor rebuilding route.

If you do manage to get the engine running BUT need to constantly pump the fuel primer bulb in order to keep it running, that would indicate a fuel pump problem.

If you have pumped the oil primer bulb quite a few times, that would pump excessive oil to the carburetors.... also if you have a habit of running the engine out of gas when you're thru with it (a no no!), that would also result in excessive oil being supplied to the engine.
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Hi brand new to this forum and have minimal experience in the boating world, so please be gentle with me. My question gets away from the original thread, although something joereeves said in his post caught my attention.
I have just purchased a 5.5mtr Fiberglass boat with a 130hp Johnson, 2 stroke, V4 outboard motor on it. I have been advised to run it out of fuel when flushing out is complete after use, given what joereeves said above have I been advise incorrectly ?


Thanks in advance Pharlap
 
Pharlap... your post is hijacking another members post. GO back to the previous page and start your own post which will then be under your own title and will be first on the list (top row). However, as long as you're here......

Whoever advised you to run that engine out of gasoline when you're done with it for the day is advising you wrongly.

Ask him if he will sign a statement guaranteeing the engine rebuilding cost should that practice result in a blown powerhead. I strongly suspect that you will be on your own.
 
Lubrication in a 2 stroke is obviously not well understood.It is not an instantaneous thing -.Oil stays in the motor for quite a while.--------------------------NO Harm will come to a motor when you run the carburetors dry !!!!
 
If more than one carburetor is involved, I strongly advise you not to run the engine out of fuel. If putting the engine into storage, drain the carburetors if the remaining fuel bothers you.
 
Thx for the replys I just thought when I saw the black oil it was engine oil? I have seen fine slattering of oil in the past but this time it seemed it was definatly not as fine and it was coming out in blobs now and then. Then again I was squeezing the primer bulb many time to get it started before I knew I didn,t have enough fuel. I saw two stroke oil coming out of some where on the engine (overflow I asume).So am I right Joe reeves it is just as racer1 said normal. cheers
 
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