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dsirekis

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i have a 2007 mercruiser 5.7 turns over but no spark this is what i have done so far
  1. replaces sensor inside distributor
  2. cap, rotor
  3. coil
  4. still no fire i am not a mechanical person but know some i follow directions very well if anyone has gone thru somthing similar please chime in my next step is a 500.00 part that i dont have:confused:
 
Stop changing parts to find the problem. We need some more information.
Is this engine Fuel injected? If yes, is it Multi port? What drive system do you have? Inboard/outboard or straight inboard?
 
go and buy a repair manual, they have a nice trouble shooting section and can be ordered from this web site.
 
Stop changing parts to find the problem. We need some more information.
I could not agree more with that.
When approaching a problem, one tried and proven method is the ole P of E.... (process of elimination).
To be most effective, we do one component ONLY at a time, and do it sytematically and methodically.
And ONLY after that component has proved itself one way or the other, do we move forward.
The P of E, when done correctly, will never let you down.

go and buy a repair manual, they have a nice trouble shooting section and can be ordered from this web site.
Yep! And make it an OEM manual, not one of the others.

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Maybe I'm way out in left field but isn't the whole idea behind this forum to help folks out when they pose a question? Though I whole heartedly agree that one should always have an OEM manual for their app, and that in this case we do need more info, simply telling them to go out and get a manual without suggesting a possible sollution just doesn't sit right with me. I suspect most folks will just walk away at that point. If it's as simple as getting a manual, then why are we here? ....just sayn'. Dsirekis, you still there??
 
Sometimes not always the op finds the problem after getting advice here, and never comes back to post that they found the problem and fixed it.
Maybe it was the dead man's switch.
 
Hope it was as simple as the switch, that would be awesome. Maybe in some cases the way we answer or don't, deters them from getting back to us. I've seen this too often in the past so it's been bugging me for some time. Just had to put it out there finally. We're here to help right?
 
Sometimes not always the op finds the problem after getting advice here, and never comes back to post that they found the problem and fixed it.
Maybe it was the dead man's switch.
Kill Switch? Yes, very likely and possibly why he hasn't returned.

As for the help offered here, I'm inclined to help those who are willing to help themselves by meeting part way.
The OP has an EST Ignition system, and he eludes to not being very mechanically inclined.
I think that he needs the manual so that the trouble-shooting section pages and images can be referenced.
If a person takes that step, then we can go from there.
If not, then much can lost in the forum communication.
 
I don't like it when OPs don't come back either...embarrassed? maybe, we may never know. Here's what I do know; this was a new member who may be new to such forums and the way they work, and what's expected when starting a thread that requires a lot more info than we usually get at first. Yes a manual is a good suggestion but at least throw something in there as you suggested Rick; that there is a troubleshooting section that may pertain to his problem and that once he has the manual he can get back to us and we can walk him through it or direct him to certain sections of the manual. I've seen a lot of long winded threads with plenty of help and not once was this same suggestion made. If I were the OP, I'd rather have no responce than one that simply directs me to get a manual and nothing else. I think most people can figure out for themselves that a manual would help. If they're coming to a forum, they're looking for expirience, the kind of stuff you just can't get in a manual but only in the field. They may also be tech speak illiterate and find a manual hard to follow. Don't forget he's new here and an answer like that will most likely just promp him to go to another forum ...IMO. I don't think that's what we want.
 
I don't like it when OPs don't come back either...embarrassed? maybe, we may never know. Here's what I do know; this was a new member who may be new to such forums and the way they work, and what's expected when starting a thread that requires a lot more info than we usually get at first. Yes a manual is a good suggestion but at least throw something in there as you suggested Rick; that there is a troubleshooting section that may pertain to his problem and that once he has the manual he can get back to us and we can walk him through it or direct him to certain sections of the manual. I've seen a lot of long winded threads with plenty of help and not once was this same suggestion made. If I were the OP, I'd rather have no responce than one that simply directs me to get a manual and nothing else. I think most people can figure out for themselves that a manual would help. If they're coming to a forum, they're looking for expirience, the kind of stuff you just can't get in a manual but only in the field. They may also be tech speak illiterate and find a manual hard to follow. Don't forget he's new here and an answer like that will most likely just promp him to go to another forum ...IMO. I don't think that's what we want.


never thought of it like that, I was hoping the trouble shooting section would point him in a direction of what to check with no spark, also in the beginning of the manual show him basic tools needed to perform checks like a DVM, etc. so he could verify things before before replacing more parts?
 
1..... I don't like it when OPs don't come back either...

2.... Here's what I do know; this was a new member who may be new to such forums and the way they work, and what's expected when starting a thread that requires a lot more info than we usually get at first. Yes a manual is a good suggestion but at least throw something in there as you suggested Rick; that there is a troubleshooting section that may pertain to his problem and that once he has the manual he can get back to us and we can walk him through it or direct him to certain sections of the manual.

3... I've seen a lot of long winded threads with plenty of help and not once was this same suggestion made. If I were the OP, I'd rather have no responce than one that simply directs me to get a manual and nothing else. I think most people can figure out for themselves that a manual would help.

4.... If they're coming to a forum, they're looking for expirience, the kind of stuff you just can't get in a manual but only in the field.

5... They may also be tech speak illiterate and find a manual hard to follow. Don't forget he's new here and an answer like that will most likely just promp him to go to another forum ...IMO. I don't think that's what we want.
1... Agree.... it may be helpful for others to learn what the resolve was.

2... Great point, and well taken.

3.... Well, I wish that was the case all the time.
My experience says that all too often these questions are asked in the absense of an OEM service manual.
Reason? I don't know!
What I'm willing to bet on..... is that when we come to a forum like this one...., we're doing one of two things.
  • We're double checking quotes and/or someone else's information.
  • We're planning to do the work ourselves.
If number 2..... then get the dog gone OEM service manual so that it can be done correctly.


4... another good point, and again well taken.


Many forums will envoke a 'Sticky' at the top of each page suggesting (in a protocol fashion) how to begin a new thread, and will go on to suggest that the OP offer as much information UP FRONT as possible, in order to promote better and more accurate responses.
Year model, engine, drive, location, salt/fresh, open/closed cooling, and so on.
Then go on to describe the problem.
The "Sticky" works well most of the time, but not always.

In this thread the OP has offered limited info......, so perhaps something along the lines of a "Sticky" would be helpful here.

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Chris suggested to stop changing parts.... I agreed.
Then Gl115 suggested the manual.
I then chimed in agreeing with Chris and GL115 and mentioned the P of E, all under the guise of helping the man.


So... when we don't know all of the info up front, or whether the OP will even return, how far do we go?
I default to the "meet us part way", and I'll be more than willing to offer help if I can!

Woodie, I have no arguement with you here.
I always enjoys reading your posts.... I'm just rattling on a bit and talking out loud. :D

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dsirekis, no offense to you regarding any of this.
We're just discussing what can be pretty darn normal on forums, and you are not alone in this.
Here's one that just posted this morning.... same thing.... no info, so the thread goes into hybernation mode until the OP returns.
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=527806

If you come back to the thread, how about an update of some sort for us, so we'll know how you're doing?


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I think fundamentally we're all on the same page in that we're here to help, and that's a good thing. I like the Sticky idea, though when I first started I didn't know what they were and they weren't the first thread I read. The first was what I thought would be the most interesting topic.....(#1 cylinder!!) But ya, a Stick just might do the trick or we can just continue to ask for more info and if the OP doesn't respond then perhaps it should end there. I try to remember as much as I can to encourage the OP to get back to us and let us know how our suggestions worked. I think that instills a sence of team work and encourages them to get back to those that helped them out. And ya, we all want to know what the fix was. That's how we all learn.

I agree with all that's been said above, even the suggestion in question. It's just the way we go about it sometimes. This was just something I saw too often for my liking as I would try putting myself in the new PO's place, and just had to get it off my chest. GL115, thanks for your response. Though it came out in this thread, I wasn't targeting you specifically, and I can tell from your response that your intentions were sincere, and that's good enough for me.

Hey, Happy New Year, it's going to be a good one. Good health and prosperity to family and friends. Great bunch of guys here.
 
Who could NOT have loved the Chrysler #1 cylinder thread? :D :D
I think that I entertained myself for at least week or two on that one! :D


Yes... Happy New Year!
Woodie.... here's to you and the rest of you guys!
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Thanks Rick. Wow, you just gotta love this media. Here we are thousands of miles away from each other and passing along best wishes instantly to the whole world. Gotta love the new tech. Where is Oregon anyway?!! Just kidding. Hey good idea, I'm sure it's Miller time somewhere already, I may as well get started now then.
 
Oregon is just east of Texas and north of Wyoming by a mile or so. You should be able to find it. :)

Yes, technology is amazing, but look at how long it took to catch up with George Jetson and Mr. Spacely.
They were way ahead of us back then, weren't they?

I just received the new iPhone which is my fist iPhone with Face Time.
If you had a Mac product, cable of video conferencing, or another 4s iPhone, the two of us could see each other while we talked.
My wife and I can talk via my phone and her iPhone (or her iPad), as long as we both have WiFi access.

On the other hand, my 86 year old mother still thinks that her fax machine and phone recorder are great technology.

But I think that I'm hyjacking this thread. ;)
 
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Woodie, no offense taken, thoughts like yours that bring up this kind of discussion can only better the forum, and a forum is only as good as the members contributing.

You and everybody else have a wonderful New year, can't wait to pull the boat out of the garage in spring.
 
Happy new year people. Never met a person from Canada i didn't like. My cousins live there near Toronto. If all nations of the world could get along as we from America and Canada do there would never be another bullet fired in anger.
 
Amen to that.

Grew up in Toronto. Now I'm about 1.5 hours north. A lot greener up here....well I should say white right now. At least it was a white Chrismas, but I wouldn`t mind if it all went away now.
 
If all nations of the world could get along as we from America and Canada do there would never be another bullet fired in anger.
With "Variety is the spice of life." (author unk) sometimes a bitter spice gets into the mix, i.e., one with different ideology and fanatical beliefs. The world has been at war since the first fist fight. Since that first fight intercontinental warring has been the norm. Stronger bullies preying upon the weak will never end. Superman to the rescue will continue for eons until the end. This forum provides an international meeting place for those desiring to communicate in a civil manner to solve somewhat trivial matters. Yet, this forum has the potential to diffuse future international fisticuffs in a civil manner by bringing the issues of those involved to the discussion table. Keeping in mind that all do not think the same is the stepping stone to friendship. Let us all keep that in mind when a new member comes to the table to discuss their issue no matter how trivial we see it. Happy New Year to one and all.
 
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