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honda bf200 steering hydraulic issue

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islandboy123

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good day

i have a 2004 honda bf200, and i have on a sea star hydraulic steering system front mount part#5345.

when turning the motor to the port side it turns 100%, but when i turn it to the starboard side i get like maybe 50 to 75% turn.

there is no leaks or anyting and the steering turns with ease with no problems but it just does not turn fully to one side.

we took the hydraulic off the mount frame and turn the steering wheel both ways and the hydraulic shaft turn all the way on both sides way wit no problems on the hydraulic itself so i assume that is working good. so it seems to be only when we hook it to the motor. i check all around the motor to see if there was anything stopping it but i dont see anything at all

i had this problem since i bought the boat about a year ago, but only now getting around the time to try and fix this problem.

any help would great

thanks
 
ummm well i never did it since i got the boat. i meen the steering it self does not feel funny when turning , no jerking or any kind of noise. so was told by a local mechanic it could not be that.

but then again dont know how much he really know anyways.

so you think if i rebleed it it might solve the problem?

thanks for the fast reply
 
Did you try to move the engine manually from side to side when the cylinder was disconnected, to verify the engine does move freely all the way to each side?
 
you know I forgot to check that when it was disconnected. So will check and see

But let me ask this about the bleeding part. If the cylinder moves freely and turn all the way on both side wen disconnected from the motor does that meen it still needs to bleed ? Bcuz it does move all the way on both sides wen disconnected so don't see why it would need to bleed. Or can I be wrong?
 
if engine is turning freely both the side without steering cylinder and the steering cylinder moving freely to both the side, their can be problem of cylinder installation, if you can post some photos,maybe we can make out it.

wajira
 
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underprssure steering ram could act dfferent .... I agre check that motor pivots freely first
 
well with the cylinder disconnected from the motor the cylinder moves all the way left and right. but i forget to check the motor it self to see if it moves freely left and right. i will have to disconnect it again to check that part

but i did check good when it was connected if anything was stoping it and it look clear to me .

i was reading somewhere online that maybe the helm was not set correctly when they was installing the cyilnder, maybe the helm was not centered correctly with the cylinder when installing the cables, something to that effect i was reading. so dont know if that is something to look at with the helm part?
 
If you have a steering cylinder then there are no cables for the steering. There are hydraulic lines. Also note, there is a plastic square washer above the cylinder where the arm glides over..if it is not seated properly in the groove, it can limit its turning ability. Can you post a video of the cylinder when you turn it?
 
well wont be able to post a vid, but will try to post some pics in a few

i guy just came to look at it and saying that i might need to take out some spacers that goes on the support rod . and also take out the adjusting nut. dont know if that make any sence. but what is the adjusting nut for anyway?

was just looking at the sea star manual to find out but dont see what it is for

he also turn the steering wheel to see how many turn he was getting , he said he turn to the side that was going all the way and it turned about 2.5 and then the other way that did not turn all the way and got about 4 he said, does this sound good or what it good be?
 
here are some pics

a guy came and check it but told me i need to take out the adjustable nut and take out some spacers and maybe put them on the other side and try it in order to get more turn to the other side . does this make any sence to really do?

got some local so call mechanics telling me all kinda different stuff to try but non of them are sure or really deal with these kind issues. so hope somenbody here can really help me out
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Hi mike. Yes I saw the manual today. That's why I was tinking that what a mechanic told me about taking out spacers might b wrong. As the manuals show them that u need them

But do u know what the adjustable nut is for on page 14?
 
Once you have the 4 nuts tightened....the steering will still be a little loose. You then turn that nut out until the slack is taken out. Then you tighten it down with an allen wrench.

Mike
 
I think you have checked the motor by itself and the cylinder by itself. It may be possible that something is binding when the two are together.

Once you get all the spacers straightened out, you can loosen the bleed valves and move the engine, by hand, side to side. This will be a bit messy, so attach a couple of hoses to the valves and collect the fluid to put back into the system.

If it swings to each end or at least close, then bleed the system. Remember to make sure that the engine should be all the way to each side as you bleed the appropriate valve...unless you have a power purger....which I doubt that you have.

Be sure to use Sea Star fluid.

One easy test to see if you have air in the system. With your motor centered and vertical, push with you body against the rear side....if it moves to the side more that just a little (and is spongy), it has air in the system.

Mike
 
All information you got in the sea star manual so first of all check your cylinder model compatible with Honda 200 (HC 5345) and see whether you have got all the parts with you remove and install correctly, before fix hydraulic pipes just move the engine to both side by hand and see,it should move freely to both side equally distance.if their is any difference like 1" inch you can adjust with spacers and adjusting nut. then fix the fluid pipes and follow the bleeding steps. Hopefully it should be fine.use good sea star fluid follow correct steps for bleeding.
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wajira
 
Thanks guys. I will go to my boat and give it a try tomorrow. But I tink the first ting I need to check if the motor moves freely wit the cylinder disconnected I had forget to check that. But the cylinder itself does move fully to each side wen disconneted

As for the model yes I have the hc5345 and it is the correct model for my honda bf200
 
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