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fuel primer solenoid problem

dannypb

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Hi,
I'm having a problem. I know a little about engines, but less about outboards. I was once a diesel marine mechanic, but that was more than 2 decades ago in the army on on landing craft and such. I really appreciate any help you guys can give me.

Engine:
1984 Johnson 70 hp

Background:
Recently replaced a bad rectifier and power core. It was running rough and wouldn't stay running in idle but I adjusted the butterflys on the carbs, synchronizing them with the cam, it it idles well now as long as I have the primer solenoid set to manual start. Last year I rebuilt the carbs. It ran ok till the power core went bad. I had screwed with the linkage last year when it went bad, which is why I had to realign the linkage. While troubleshooting the electrical problem I had removed the flywheel to check the stator. Since putting it back I ensured the engine is at TDC (top cylinder is TDC at the TDC mark). I have not checked the timing since I don't have a timing light and I'm not even sure what wire to connect it too. Although I think it would be the top cylinder wire from the coil to the spark plug. I also took apart the fuel primer solenoid two years ago when I was troubleshooting a fuel problem. I also rebuilt the fuel pump 2 years ago. It ran after I put it back together, although it has always run rough at idle since I bought it a few years ago.

Problem now:
The engine starts and runs fine as long as I have the fuel primer solenoid in the manual start position. As soon as I twist the little red handle to the normal position it picks up in RPM's for a couple secs and dies. If I throttle up, it will stay running for a bit, but eventually die.

What sould I do now? :^) and no cracks about float testing it! On the water is the only place I feel relaxed!
 
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With the primer lever in the " manual " position fuel is going straight into the engine bypassing the carburetors.-------This means that you have to re-visit the carburetor cleaning work.--You have missed something there !! --Also there is nothing wrong with the fuel pump !
 
Ugghhh, I was afraid someone would say that. Not a lot of carbs in diesel engines. I guess I should get the rebuild kit and try again.

Thanks :)
 
I didn't exactly know what the fuel solenoid did, but with you saying it dumps fuel directly into the engine, I figured I'd check to be sure the carbs were getting fuel. I took the fuel line off the top carb and had my daughter roll it over. No fuel. I examined the fuel lines and I found a small crack in one of the connectors. I redid the fuel lines completely. The previous owner has 1/8" connectors to 3/16 fuel line clamped on. Along with some windshield wiper fluid hose. I replaced all that junk and it runs ok now. I noticed it wasn't the right hose before. Should have changed it a long time ago. Not perfect, but good.

As I let it run I noticed what looked like some milky oil coming from the prop with the exhaust. I checked the gear oil and it was milky. I guess I have a leak there. A boaters work is never done I guess.
 
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