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Evinrude 4416 problem

timguy

timguy

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Hi, I'm asking if anyone here has a solution for stator and magnet ring contact....see in photos. This is a real virgin, but filings of aluminum were everywhere. The magnet ring has a chamfer that it bottoms out on but what actually holds the stator plate down against the block? I've been at this a long time but I haven't worked on many of these and it's the first time I've seen this. Might have to appeal to somebody like Racer who probably has run into this before. I'm restoring this for somebody in Alaska and it should be just a perfect runner with no problems. Thanks in advance to anyone who can make some valid suggestions here. Tim
 

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Man, no takers on this one! Guess I'll have to use all of my experience along with what I've got left in my I.Q. cookie jar. I'll have to ask the "old-timers outboard club of America".
Seems that there is nothing to keep that stator plate down other than the tension of the timing lever against the bottom of the fuel tank?
 
Thanks Kevin I expected maybe something from Racer but maybe that's even before his time. I contacted Joe Reeves and he said he is no expert on those either. By the way he's doing very well and in Florida avoiding the hurricanes.
 
That's fantastic to hear Joe is doing well. He was a great resource on this forum for a long time and the knowledge he left in his posts is very helpful if people search a little. I'm really surprised that Joe doesn't have some experience on this vintage, but it was probably 50 years ago since he last worked on one so it's completely understandable.
 
Joe used to say that running a multi carburetor 2 stroke out of fuel was very bad.-----Resulted in a cylinder running with no oil.-----I say that there is no issue running one out of fuel.
 
I understand that running out of fuel may cause one or two cylinders to run a bit longer while dragging the other cylinder/cylinders a few more revolutions after fuel/oil mix has dried up, right? That would depend mostly on fuel hose routing and where the last of the fuel would find its course. I would agree with both of you, as it depends on aforementioned factors.
It might make more of a difference on certain vintage Mercury 4 and 6 cylinders. Also if fuel/oil is mixed especially lean. If owner/operator is quite often running motor out of fuel, as if after every outing. Many factors can come into play here. More importantly is to keep multiple carbed motors syncronised and clean. I have repaired/scrapped so many scored cylinders because of partially plugged main jets. The Yamaha 25 twin carb is one easily scored. I have three in the shop right now, too expensive to repair. Yamaha parts are generally quite expensive.
 
Both of you guys have donated so much of your time and experience, it's a pleasure just to have the privilege to be involved on the same forum. Maybe in the next life, you can come to an agreement on this issue. Just in case there's still a few old 2 strokes left.
 
??----When one carburetor runs empty the only thing going through those cylinders is dry air !---No power / heat is produced.-----Oil on the parts will lubricate the parts just fine for 10 seconds !
 
When the engine is running the parts are coated with oil !-----That oil does NOT DISAPPEAR when dry air goes through the engine for 10 seconds.----I have said it so many times----" mixing gas / oil and 2 stroke lubrication " ---Is not well understood.
 
If it's 10, 20 or even 30 seconds, I certainly don't see a problem. Some boaters may crank the motor for at least that amount of time, if there is a starting problem....typically lack of fuel as the cause.
 
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