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Engine miss or something else AQ200D

chinook

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"I'm in the process of res

"I'm in the process of restoring an old tri-hull with an AQ200D - 280leg. First time out on the water I noticed two problems. What I initially believe to be an engine miss and she wheezed, caughed, spit and died when I put the throttle to her. I've since gone through the fuel system, pulled and cleaned the pre-filter by the pump, the pump itself, carb filter and rebuilt the carb. I ran it on the muffs from a portable tank with fresh fuel after this and I think I may have that issue solved, throttle response much better from what I can tell on the muffs. I won't know for sure until the weather clears and I can get her on the water and under load again.

But...The mysterious engine miss/clunk is still there so it's likely electrical as opposed to fuel related (if it is a miss) given what I've done so far. It's an intermittant, loud clunk at idle speed that you can hear and feel on the engine, deck and at the drive. It does this both in neautral and in gear. I'm going through the electrical now. The plugs/wires are new. The points were replaced by an igniter by the previous owner and I noticed that the timing was set off the scale (but it runs fine outside of this clunk). I've reset the timing to 8 deg BTDC as per the book and that clunk is still there. I've pulled and inspected the plugs (look fine), completed a compression check (all good - engine rebuilt last year according to previous owner)

I just can't figue out if it actually an engine miss or something else. When it happens, the exhaust spits, the hull shakes and the engine RPM's increase for a split second until it levels out. You can feel it bump in the upper gear area of the drive. My question (long way to get there) is: Is there anything in the leg that would do this while at idle, in neautral and in gear or should I be primarily concentrating on the engine itself.

If I were to compare the noise and the feel to something more familiar, it would be the sound and feel that bad u-joint makes on a car when you put it in gear; however, this happens in neautral, low rpm's about every 6 seconds. No differance when you put it in gear."
 
"I've spent a fair amount

"I've spent a fair amount of my career "begugging stuff." Sometimes the best thing to do is what we termed a "binary"...i.e., cut the system in half and see if its a problem in one half or the other.

In your case, I'd remove the drive leg. It's not that hard. To run the engine with the leg off,
disconnect the raw water hose from the INLET of the raw water pump located on the front of th engine. Put a short section ( 3 to 4 ft) of hose on the pump inlet. STick the other end of the hose in a 5 gal pail of water. Stick a water hose running full bore into the pail and start the engine when the pail is almost full. The engine may very well suck the pail dry which you should not let happen. There are more elegant ways to do this, but for now...

In ANY event... if you are doing a restoration, you should change both bellows so this is not a waste of time... Also, while I've never seen it myself, "EL" has seen many failures of the elbow that connects the water hose to the drive itself that is located on the drive. May as well inspect and/or replace it while you have things apart. If the u joints are OK , they should be lubed.

In any event, this will give you an engine vs drive as a problem determination."
 
"Think I got it figured out. T

"Think I got it figured out. The previous owner had two plug wires in the wrong order and the wrong plugs and the wrong oil filter. Changed the oil this morn with a new filter, new plugs in and fixed the firing order. She fired right up, no miss and good throttle response. Ready for a water test......I'll update later when I can make it up to the lake."
 
"THANK YOU. I was in the same

"THANK YOU. I was in the same boat as you. I bought a boat with a AG130D that needed a lot of work. After I got it to a point were it would run I took it to the lake. It idled great, but as soon as I throttled up it would bogg down, back fire and die. I was leaning towards the fuel system starving the carbs for fuel. I put on a new fuel pump, new filters, new hoses and rebuilt the carbs. Same problem. I tested the coil, check and rechecked my plugs and wire. I never verified the wires at the cap (I'm such a dummy). After reading above I went out side and sure enough #2 and #3 wires were incorrect on the cap. I corrected the wires. I fired it up and ran great. (in the drive way). Now I need to try it on the lake."
 
"Glad it helped. Even after I

"Glad it helped. Even after I corrected the routing issue, I still had to complete the carb adjustment and timing on the water, under load."
 
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