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70hp 3 Cylinder

Wynand

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I recently purchased two Johnson 70hp 3 Cylinder (1992?) engines. One was seized (to be kept for spares) and the other one started and revved smoothly on the sellers boat on the dry. However, when I installed the engine on my boat and took it to water, problems surfaced. It starts but as soon as it is put in gear, it dies or sometimes it revs up a little to about 1400 - 1600rpm and there it stuck. On dry land she revs like a banshee.

I stripped off the carburetors and took then totally apart and thoroughly cleaned all the jets, ports etc with carb cleaner and compressed air and everything is clean and open. Set the floats correctly and started the engine. Again, revved smoothly on the dry as before but the idling is a bit erratic - when left on a fast idle it will reduce rpm and dies and when tried to rev up just before it dies, it "hesitates" like it choking with too much air and then rev straight up.
Back in the water the same symptoms again. Timing is about 2 degrees at idle and 22 degrees at about 4000rpm - difficult to check correctly/accurately because strangely the timing marks are out by 180 degrees on the flywheel:confused:

Here is the history of engine:

1. Sat idle for about 1.5 years without being started.
2. Was used at coast and I stay inland at about 5000ft above sea level.
3. Compression on top two cylinders are 100-102psi and bottom piston measures about 92psi
4. Air screw turned out 1.5 turns.

Some friend suggest it is reed valve related, another suggested to change the fuel jets (which Im doubtful of, many guys I know use their boat at the coast regularly on holidays and inland without any ill effects or jet changes) and another point fingers to leaking crank casing seals.

I am really desperate. Can anybody please help pointing me in the right direction to get this engine sorted out.
 
They all wind up on the hose because there is no load on the motor !-----------Do you have spark on all 3 that will jump a gap of 7/16" or more ?
 
When it revs up in the water to about 1400rpm the engine is still in neutral with no load applied other than the back pressure of the water on exhaust. Take it out of the water she revs up like no tomorrow.
As said, motor will idle at about 1100rpm on the dry and within a few seconds slows down and dies.

Took the spark plugs out - set at 1mm gap and all spark plugs fires nicely when engine is cranked over. Can it be fuel supply problem? Fuel pumps deliver strongly and as said carbs thoroughly cleaned.
I did noticed that the middle carb flooded when the motor was run in the water and can that be the reason it did not want to rev up in the drink? Took middle carb off and checked needle and seat and float level again. Have not started again yet.
 
Pulled flywheel, key OK and in place. Cleaned some light surface rust off the pickups under F/wheel. Cleaned carbs again.
Sparks checked - Top plug wire jump the 7/16" gap but not strong sparks with bare audible "crack" sound. Middle and lower cylinders also jump the spark but spark intensity low and no audible sparking sound - when cranking two lower plug sparks are fading slightly as the motor turns over for few seconds.

When I started the motor after refitting the carbs, it started immediately and sounded really good and run smooth on a very fast idle for a few minutes. When it reached a bit of running temperature it started loosing revs and dies. Starts difficult thereafter with an initial misfire when firing up and refuse to idle and when revving up sound like it surging with the said misfire before picking up the pace.

Except for the suspect spark, can the crankshaft seals be leaking (temperature related as mentioned and misfire and surge on start) or am I missing something?
 
The upper and lower seals are rubber lip type.------------a couple of sealing surfaces in there are the metal labarynth type. If those metal ones are bad you really do have bearing problems.----Look into the spark issues first.
 
the varnish or shellac or whatever they used on those coils cracks with time and allows moisture to get in them....that could be your fire problem...
 
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