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2008 BF115A engine cutting out

Rob Pickering

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I have had 3 instances now where the engine cuts out then starts back up, from all throttle ranges. Engine never does completely stop, but it seems like a spark issue. The engine doesn't cough and puke like it is ingesting water, but just plain cuts out then fires back up. Any ideas? Plugs are a year old, fuel seperator is clean.
 
Yuk! An intermittant problem is the worst kind to find.

Try to remember if you are turning, accelerating, hitting waves, etc when this happen. Also...very important....what were you gauges doing?...jumping around? Going to zero? You get the picture.

In spite of you saying that it does not sound like water in fuel, the easiest thing to do is drain the vapor separator into a glass jar and check the fuel for water or other foreign substances.

You also wrote that the plugs are a year old. I would change the plugs. Use the NGK's not DENSO or any other equivalent.

The most common problem on the 115's of that vintage are bad spark plugs and poor fuel quality.

The next most likely would be connections....

Clean battery posts, and tighten (with a wrench). Reseat all fuses and connectors. Check each one for any corrosion. Check the cabling as it comes out the engine...especially if your problem occurs mostly when turning. You could have a broken wire inside the cable that is just making contact, except when it fails.

Do not forget to reseat all the connectors under the dash, especially to the key switch.

There...you asked for ideas.

Mike
 
Everytime it has happened, I was up to speed, around 5000 rpm. Hot weather, fairly smooth water. Guages all stable, except for the rpm, which was showing the engine fluctuating. What I have discovered though is when it starts I reduce throttle to idle and slowly go back up to wot, taking about 60 secs to do this, and the problem goes away. If I advance throttle too quick, it will start to fluctuate again. another note, outside air temp everytime this has happened has been 100 plus. 2 times this happened I was shutdown in a cove after running for awhile. Any chance of a vapor lock type issue? I know that it is injected, just wanted to throw that out there.

Just got my new filter installed, but have not been out in the water yet. I did not detect any water when I drained the bowl. I am also going to put a new set of plugs in as well. Last time I replaced them with NGK, and I plan on staying with them.


Thanks for the help.
 
It is hard to say, if it is spark or fuel. From what you say about the gauges, it appears that power is getting to the key switch and the key switch is at least keeping power to the gauges.

I do not know about the vapor lock theory...but

Since you have already checked most of the electric stuff (if you did what I suggested in the last post)...I would turn to the fuel. If you can cruise at a lower rpm with no trouble, but the trouble only happens at higher rpm, then the motor may just need more fuel. Either there is not enough fuel getting to the vapor separator or the vapor separator/high pressure pump is not providing enough fuel pressure.

It could be clogged fuel injectors, but if you can run at high rpm for at least a little while, then problem injectors are not very probable.

What did the fuel look like when you drained the vapor separator?

Did you happen to have someone squeeze the fuel bulb when the motor was failing? If not, give it a try. If it takes several squeezed to get hard and the motor starts performing better, then it is definitely fuel...but could be any number of things.

Have you ever changed your high pressure fuel filter? It is inside the right end of your vapor separator.

Have you changed you low pressure filter?

If you have just changed your water separating fuel, make sure that the two plugs in the filter are sealed properly and are tight.

Make sure all of your fuel lines are connected tightly...do not rotate on the connector...etc.

Make sure your fuel bulb is good and gets hard when priming engine. It should normally lay either horizontally or ideally with the arrow pointing up. Depending on your tank, it is possible that you could have lost fuel out of the system back to the tank through the fuel bulb (while you were sitting in the cove), if one check valve is bad and you do not have an antisyphon valve in the fuel tank.

It is possible you are sucking air; the low pressure fuel pump is getting weak or failing; the high pressure filter or lower pressure filter is somewhat plugged up with debris; the fuel bulb is bad or in incorrect angle (could be blocking fuel passage), tank vent might be clogged, etc...

If you can borrow a new fuel line and portable tank from someone, that will eliminate an issue with the tank, water separator, hose, etc.

Another angle...if no answers are appearing with looking at fuel....take a timing light out with you and if you can make it fail...attach the timing light to each spark plug wire and watch what happens to the flashing when the engine fails. Try this on each spark plug. It is possible you are just loosing spark in two cylinders. Until you do these checks, you really do not know which way to look.

Sorry for the rambling...there are a lot of things to check.

Mike
 
Hi Mike
I have a BF225 and I was out at the lake last weekend and my engine was cutting out at speeds just over idle. the lake elevation was 7500 feet above sea level and I think that this might have been the problem. any suggestions to solve my problem? maybe a larger fuel line?

Thanks
 
88checkmate...

I have no experience with motors at altitude. I would suggest that you start a new thread, with a title of something like BF225 cutting out while running at 7500 ft.

Indicate whether it has run ok before at this altitude or not and if it happened a little over time or all at once.

Also, indicate what any of your warning lights are doing. Oil...Overheat...Check Engine...and Charge.

Mike
 
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