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2002 mfs25 fauling # 2 plug with fuel

oldsaltydawg

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The motor is stumbling bad i picked it up cheap with hopes of fixing it any ideas? Im currently going throught the fuel delivery system replacing lines , pump and filters. I tested the coils and when i rolled the engine over the #2 coil didnt fire like the other two cylinders. I know on some engines cylinders stay dorment until a certain rpm. Does the engine have to be running for that cylinder to fire?



By the way it is a nsf25a not mfs sorry.
 
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What makes you feel you need a fuel pump? Grab the Factory service manual, available from any dealer, including me, and DIAGNOSE. To check ignition components, you will need a good ANALOG ohm meter.
 
As for the fuel pump i noticed that the rubber goods in the fuel system are all in bad shape and for the price why not change it. I had to pull it anyway looking for a oil leak and noticed that the individual who changed it before me didnt put a Oring. As for the manual i am acquiring one. I tested the plug lines with my Fluke digital tester. Is that the wrong kind of tester?


Just for reference this motor sat on a boat in a field with cattle and one cow with horns decided to scratch its head on this motor. While the cow was scratching its head it nocked off the cover and did some damage so i am thinking ignition wires could have gotten damaged.
 
OK, you have an NSF/MFS25A. (Nissan and Tohatsu are identical in every respect except the decals). That's triple carbs, as opposed to EFI. Get the Factory service manual (forget the aftermarket manuals). You will want to order Part# 003-21053-0, $40.00, from any dealer, including me. Ignition testing must be done with a good ANALOG meter, not a high-tech digital meter. Your very cool Fluke does not necessarily provide enough drive to the circuit under test to get proper values. Even a moderately-priced Triplett meter will be fine for resistance readings, but getting a meter with DVA capability (such as the ES meter that Tohatsu America sells), is a good choice, and allows reading the ignition pulses going into the coils, without the complexity of an oscilloscope or old Merc-O-Tronic unit.

Seems you are doing fine so far. I can't imaging any hack installing the fuel pump without the o-ring. Based on that work, consider that the caliber of the previous mechanic might not have been what you want. Verify everything. I would suspect a varnished carb or 2, in addition to any ignition issues.

Get a new water pump kit installed. Order 3R0873220M, $37.49. Do not take the "impeller-only" shortcut. A full kit pumps better, lasts longer, and is the same labor to install.

Properly and Thoroughly clean the carbs (there are no shortcuts here):
Remove and completely disassemble all 3 carbs (including jets and emulsion tube nozzles), then soak all non-rubber bits in real carb dip (available at auto parts houses in 1- and 5-gallon cans) for 4 hours at room temp. Then liberally blow out all passages with generic carb spray (you may consume a full can of spray for each carb), and reassemble, paying particular attention to float height. If necessary, get a carb kit: (If you want to do kits in all 3 carbs, you will need 3 kits). Part# 3R3873221M, 55.30 each.
When you reinstall the carbs, you will need to verify the initial synchronization according to the Factory service manual. If that sync ends up being a little off, you can do the "by ear" method (if your hearing is superb), of you can use vacuum gauges and the appropriate kit to get the final dial-in perfect.

Change LU lube, crankcase oil, and filter. Do not use synthetic crankcase oil. Select a 10w-30 or 10w-40 oil that is rated FC-W by the NMMA.

If you see any serious visual damage to spark plug wires, replace them; be advised that the wires come complete with the coil. You don't need to get all 3, but if you have a bad wire, you will be buying 3R0061710M, IGNITION COIL, $49.75 each. If you just need the boot at the plug end of the wire, that's available separately: 3T5069210M, PLUG CAP, RESISTANCE, $21.09 each.

If your serial number is below 062257AX (I believe it is), you need to confirm whether you have had a 5mm drain hole added to the driveshaft housing just forward and above the oil drain plug boss. If not, you can PM me for a procedure to bore the hole. You need that drain if you will ever be storing the motor in freezing weather.
 
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