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1987 evinrude mod#90tlcur

hbryan

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"motor slowed,lost power,would

"motor slowed,lost power,would not idle, replaced plugs and it ran fine with ear muffs but not under load, took it to a small dealer (son the mech) he replaced the starboard power pack, when he tested it in tank it blew same power pack, he then checked the stator and said it was putting out over 400 volts and needed to be replaced, when I questioned him on it he got upset said some things I didn't like so I paid him for his work and took it home. I think he is just a parts changer, to me it doesn't seem right for the stator putting out 400 volts and only blowing the starboard power pack sounds like a regulator problem. any suggestions. thanks H.B."
 
"Harris.... The following are

"Harris.... The following are steps you can do yourself and the compression and spark are the first area to check. What s/plugs are you using and at what gap? Let us know what you find.

(Compression & Spark Test)
(J. Reeves)

1st - Regardless of what problem one might encounter, always start with the basic troubleshooting procedure. Check the compression which should be in the range of 100+ psi (somewhat less on the smaller hp engines) and even on all cylinders.

2nd - With the spark plugs removed, rig up some type of spark tester whereas you can set a gap to be jumped. On magneto ignition systems.... and also the Battery Capacitance Ignition system OMC engines from 1968 to 1972, set the gap to 1/4". On the solid state OMC ignition systems from 1973 to the present, set the gap to 7/16". The spark should jump the gap with a strong blue lightning like flame..... a real strong blue snap!

NOTE: Checking the spark via using the spark plugs is a waste of time and proves nothing. The above stated gaps must be used for a proper test.

If there was no spark, on engines from 1973 up, if one exists disconnect the RED main electrical plug at the engine. Remove the s/plugs. crank the engine via the starter solenoid (jumper bat term to small 3/8" term nut, not the ground nut) and observe spark. If spark is now okay as stated above, the usual cause is a shorted ignition switch BUT that black/yellow wire could also.be shorted to ground at some point wthin the wiring harness.

For the later model engines where that large RED electrical plug was discontinued for updated electrical connections, find the black/yellow wire leading to the powerpack and disconnect it to run the above ignition switch/wiring harness test.

If the above checks out as it should, and the engine dies out when throttle is applied or won't idle, it is usually due to one or both of two things. The carburetors are fouled, in which case the cure would be to remove, clean, and rebuild them..... or the timer base under the flywheel is sticking which would result in a retarded spark. If the engine will not fire/start at all even though you have the proper spark and compression, it's usually due to fouled carburetors.

To check the timer base for sticking (Engine Not Running), spin the prop to align the shifter dog with forward gear and while doing so, put the engine into forward gear. Now, while watching the timer base, slowly apply throttle clear up to full throttle. The timer base should move smoothly all the way up against the black rubber cap that is atached to the end of the full advance spark setting screw. If the timer base sticks, find out why and correct that problem.

Usually any sticking of the timer base is caused by one of the four retaining clamps being slightly too tight. Putting a very thin washer under the clamp cures that problem. Some boaters use a thin screwdriver to bend the clamp upwards slightly but I prefer the thin washer. The sticking can also be caused by having a faulty stator start to melt down, resulting in a sticky substance dripping down on the timer base nylon retaining ring.

When time permits, visit my store (copy/paste) at: stores.ebay.com/Evinrude-Johnson-Outboard-Parts-etc?refid=store

(Spark Tester - Home Made)
(J. Reeves)

A spark tester can be made with a piece of 1x4 or 1x6, drive a few finishing nails through it, then bend the pointed ends at a right angle. You can then adjust the gap by simply twisting the nail(s). Solder a spark plug wire to one which you can connect to the spark plug boots, and a ground wire of some kind to the other to connect to the powerhead somewhere. Use small alligator clips on the other end of the wires to connect to ground and to the spark plug connector that exists inside of the rubber plug boot.

Using the above, one could easily build a spark tester whereas the!y could connect 2, 4, 6, or 8 cylinders all at one time. The ground nail being straight up, the others being bent, aimed at the ground nail. A typical 4 cylinder tester follows:


..........X1..........X2

.................X..(grd)

..........X3..........X4

When time permits, visit my store (copy/paste) at: stores.ebay.com/Evinrude-Johnson-Outboard-Parts-etc?refid=store"
 
"I checked the compression, 11

"I checked the compression, 115 psi on all cylinders, checked spark, good on port side,none on starboard side, I know powerpack is bad on starboard side, pulled flywheel and removed stator it appears to have been hot, the plastic coating looks melted in spots and cracked in spots,the mech I took it from said the stator put out in excess of 400 volts and blew the power pack, what I don't understand is how it blows only the starboard power pack. I know the rectifier is bad because the tach only works at low rpm and it doesn't charge the battery, can that have anything to do with it?"
 
"It's not likely that a fa

"It's not likely that a failing stator could put out more voltage that normal. I'd suspect your mechanic is in error if he indeed implied that.

A failing (melting down) stator could however, on that model, result in a low voltage condition, or no voltage being applied to one powerpack capacitor, and this would make the powerpack act like it was faulty.

Switch the powerpacks, if the problem follows the powerpack, it is indeed faulty. But if the problem stays on the same bank after switching the powerpacks, both powerpacks would be okay.

A faulty water cooled voltage regulator/rectifier would affect the battery charging system and the tachometer's operation BUT would have nothing to do with the ignition.

At any rate, if the stator's black coils that are located at the rear of the stator are oozing a sybstance out of them, dripping down on the timer base and powerhead..... replace the stator first, then we'lll go from there.

Be sure to torque that flywheel nut to 145 foot pounds. Anything less will result in a sheared flywheel key.

When time permits, visit my store (copy/paste) at: stores.ebay.com/Evinrude-Johnson-Outboard-Parts-etc?refid=store"
 
"Hi, harris again, I changed t

"Hi, harris again, I changed the stator and it runs good on port cylinders I don't think it was bad but it was coated with a black coating and it was oozing in places, I replaced it,I know I need to replace the starboard power pack but before I do I have another question, what purpose does tha regulator/rectifer serve besides battery charging and tach operation and can it possiably cause a power pack to go out."
 
what is the proper gap for 198

what is the proper gap for 1987 evinrude plugs?
thanks h.b.
 
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