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1983 Merc. 260 No movement (forward or reverse)

nickB

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I have a 1983 Merc. 260. Boat died in water. Engine run great, but when shifting boat will not move either forward or reverse. First engine died when put in gear. Now engine runs, won't move
Shift cable moves at engine. no luck. Prior to leaving dock I noticed a lot of water distrubance at the top of the outdrie at transom. Any help will be appreciated.
 
Is the prop spinning a little (when idling)? If not look behind the engine at the coupler shaft. If the shaft going to the outdrive is not spinning then it needs a new coupler; not cheap.
 
Thanks for the tip, took your advice,prop dosen't turn in any gear, coupler shaft does however. Any other suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Dumb question from a novice - can a thrust hub on a propeller shaft cause my problem??? thanks again.
 
Thanks to all - I have finally got the boat on trailer. with the engine not running I can shift intto forward and reverse and the prop responds correctly. Have also drained the drive, no foreign objects in the oil, oil prettly black, but smooth as silk. Have also check the drive shaft from the engine again and it turns. Could the shift interupter switch be my problem. Thanks again for all who respond. I am on a borrowed trailer and need to get this antique back in the pond.
 
WITH THE ENGINE OFF
shift into fwd gear , verify the prop locks counterclockwise, have someone watch the shaft behind the motor while you step on a blade and try to turn the prop.
Prop turns ,shaft does= engine coupler
Prop turns ,shaft does not= drive damage.
 
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Thanks Bt Doctur; I tried your suggestion, however when I stepped on the prop with quite a bit of pressure the prop would not turn. I found out some disturbing news today. The person that was operating the vessel when it stopped told me that he heard a noise from the drive unit that sounded like "metal grinding". Any suggestions as to the source of this grind. When I pull the outdrive I would kinda like to know what to look for. Thanks again to all.
 
Finally removed the upper cap on the upper drive. and found that both the drive gear and the driven gear is wasted. Purchased a rebuilt upper, however am having trouble getting the yoke from the u-joint to slide into the engine coupler. I have been told to use a engine alignment tool to align the female of the coupler. I have a friend who will loan me the "alignment" tool. I also understand that the engine must be raised or lowered if the tool does not insert freely and rotated. Any tricks of the trade would be hughely appreciated.
 
Did you try turning the prop slightly CCW while inserting the shaft, so as to orient the splines to fit the engine coupler? This usually has to be done when the drive is about 3" from fully seated.
Also when the o rings meet the gimbal bearing at about 3/4" out, you will meet some resistance and a light tap or two may be needed.
You have the throttle quadrant in forward, and the lower shift shaft in forward, right?

Rod
 
Here is my procedure for re-installing the drive leg, just for reference. It may help you if you don't have a manual.

[h=1]Re-installing the Drive Leg; Alpha & Gen II
First check the gimbal bearing by turning it by hand to make sure it is not rough. Any roughness or stickiness at all is cause to replace it, and this is the time to do it. Give the U joints a few shots of marine grease (if greaseable). Gen II and earlier U joints had grease nipples up until about 1996. If you did not disturb the engine mounts the alignment is likely OK, but it’s wise to check it anyway if you have an alignment bar. If the engine has been moved or the drive has not been off in a while, check it for sure. Check the bellows for tears or soft spots; replace if needed. [/h]
Install new O rings on the drive input shaft. Then liberally grease both the splines and the O ring section of the input shaft. Grease the inside of the gimbal bearing inner race. Tie the trim cylinders up as high as possible out of the way.

Always use a new gasket set and make sure the gasket surfaces are clean. Make sure the large square O ring is in place in the nose compartment of the shaft opening in the gimbal. Use 3M yellow weatherstrip cement to seal it. Make sure the water passage 1-5/8” O.D. O ring is in place; again use 3M yellow weatherstrip cement to hold it. You can use a thin film of lubriplate or 2-4-C on the gasket faces, but do NOT use silicon or any other sealant. Grease the studs and place the gasket on the studs, noting the correct location of the lube oil anti-dribble valve hole.

Put the throttle quadrant control in forward gear. Put the drive in forward; by turning the shift shaft lever arm CW to the straight forward 12 o’clock position, while turning the prop CCW from the rear, to lock it in forward.

Make sure the upper shift shaft crank roller engages the shift slider in the bell housing. The receiver shoe on the bottom of the upper shift shaft (just below the exhaust passage) should be pointed straight forward. Liberally grease the shift slider mechanism and it’s receiver slot in the drive, and check it frequently as you fit the drive into place.

It works best to block or support the drive at about the right height to slide it in, so you don't have to lift it. As you slide the shaft into the gimbal race, do not force it; it should go easily by hand. If the splines don’t mate exactly with the engine coupler (the drive will jam about 3” out), turn the prop shaft slowly CCW until the splines engage. There will also be some resistance as the new shaft O rings compress into the gimbal bearing race (the last inch or so). A few persuasive taps with a rubber hammer will help. Before sliding the drive in the last inch or so is a good time to inspect the shift slider and the upper and lower shift shafts for proper fitup.

It’s OK if necessary to use two of the nuts to evenly seat the drive the last ¾” or so, as long as you are SURE the shift shafts are mating correctly, and there is nothing else binding. Once the drive is fully seated, check forward and reverse gears for proper and complete shifting. If shifting is not right, remove the drive and start again. If OK, progressively tighten the six elastic stop nuts to 45 ft lbs in increments. Then untie and reconnect the trim cylinders. Raise the drive and re-connect the speedo tube fitting just in front of the lower shift shaft.

Lower the drive and fill with Merc high performance gear lube from the bottom until it flows out the top vent. Then insert the vent plug and give it another two shots. Then disconnect the pump and quickly insert the bottom drain plug. Tighten the vent and drain plugs. Top up the monitor reservoir as required to the FULL line.

Test run on a hose. Check for any leaks. Check proper gear shifting and shift interrupt switch operation. Be sure to check the lube oil reservoir level and top up after the first hour or two of use. It will drop slightly as the air bubbles come out, and you don't want to run the gears dry.

Rod
 
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