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Jaack Oriente

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"Original problem was firing o

"Original problem was firing on 1 cyl only.Narrowed it down to a power pack. Replaced power pack ran great for 3 weeks then same problem,decided to replace stator(stator only on this model,no coil or sensor),new powerpack,new coils and new rectifier,I wanted no problems next summer.Now I have spark to both cyl,I have fuel and compression-no start,could this be firing on the wrong stroke somehow? I don't get it/It seems like a timing issue but how could it be. I'm at a loss Please help"
 
"Thank you - That was the firs

"Thank you - That was the first thing I checked also,key is tight and straight."
 
what is your mod number...ever

what is your mod number...every 81 60 i looked at had external sensor and coil under flywheel.
 
Every 81-60hp I have looked at

Every 81-60hp I have looked at shows the sensor under the flywheel and the ignition coils are external.
 
"my mistake.........they are s

"my mistake.........they are showing both the rope start,seperate sensor and chg coil......and elect start on same diagram..."
 
"If you look at an Evinrude Ig

"If you look at an Evinrude Ign. diagram for my year it shows the stator with the sensor and coil setup,mine does not have this ,Ihave a stator only.Look at a 1982 60hp diagram and you'll see mine,so I'm assuming I have a late 1981 Model# E60ELCIH Ser#J0001937. I even thought the stator was reversed-Impossible.I don't get it- I even tried a little shot of fuel right in the plug and not even a burp but yet I have comp/fuel/and spark. I'm baffled"
 
Your stator has all the goodie

Your stator has all the goodies in it so what is the problem??No spark on one cylinder / no spark on both ??? Plug wires on the correct cylinder ??? wires from the powerpack to the correct coil???
 
"My problem is I have spark, I

"My problem is I have spark, Ihave compression, and I have fuel and still no start. I find it a little strange that I had a motor that started and ran on 1 cyl. and now with spark to both cyl. I can't get this baby to kick"
 
"u do,have a sensor coil,and c

"u do,have a sensor coil,and charge coil,it is built into,your stator...on--elect strt models.i tried to delete my post of earlier,but could'nt.
Have u had the flywheel off?.what is your comp...have u cleaned and re-built the carbs..?we all talk about compression,but,i have had eng's w/1 cyls down,and it will still START.From your first post,i would suspect the primer,or plugged hoses...if u have spark,..comp good,..and clean carbs,..it will at least try to start..then,we go from there.."
 
"Yes my flywheel was off, I re

"Yes my flywheel was off, I replaced the stator.I agree with you even with one cylinder down it would start,as it did before I repl.the stator.Comp aprx.110-120 per 4 strokes,carbs def.clean,new primer and hoses.I crank it over/nothing/I pull the plugs-their wet, I check the spark(again)it appears good & strong,flywheel key straight.my wires from the Power Pak to the ign.coils are correct.FYI I replaced the stator/power pak/rectifier/and ign.coils all at the same time because I wanted no headaches next summer."
 
"If you have compression, spar

"If you have compression, spark, and fuel to the cylinders, and the flywheel key isn't sheared, the engine has to run, so something must be missing.

With the spark plugs removed, the spark must jump a 7/16" gap on all cylinders with a strong blue lightning like flame.... a real SNAP! Does it?

Note that checking the spark by using the spark plugs is a waste of time and proves nothing.

(Spark Tester - Home Made)
(J. Reeves)

A spark tester can be made with a piece of 1x4 or 1x6, drive a few finishing nails through it, then bend the pointed ends at a right angle. You can then adjust the gap by simply twisting the nail(s). Solder a spark plug wire to one which you can connect to the spark plug boots, and a ground wire of some kind to the other to connect to the powerhead somewhere. Use small alligator clips on the other end of the wires to connect to ground and to the spark plug connector that exists inside of the rubber plug boot.

Using the above, one could easily build a spark tester whereas they could connect 2, 4, 6, or 8 cylinders all at one time. The ground nail being straight up, the others being bent, aimed at the ground nail. A typical 4 cylinder tester follows:


..........X1..........X2

.................X..(grd)

..........X3..........X4

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Spark plugs should be Champion QL77JC4 plugs, gapped at .040 .

If the spark checks out okay, and especially if the engine has been sitting for some length of time, carburetor fouling can take place. Did you actually dismantle the carburetors and clean them thoroughly, rebuilding them with new carburetor kits? Did you manually clean the fixed brass hight speed jet that located in the bottom center portion of the float chambers?"
 
"Joe-as noted earlier I had re

"Joe-as noted earlier I had replaced the stator,power pak,ign. coils and rectifier.What I did tonight was disconnect the linkage from the throttle to the retainer plate for advance.I retarded the stator(looking at the flywheel from above-clockwise)and I got the engine to fire. but is way out of position for the linkage to ever fit. I believe I have a problem with this new stator,looking at it I think it was assembled upside down. my problem is definetly a timing issue,like I said the other day this boat ran 3 weeks ago and then dropped # 1 cyl.(no spark)I've double and triple checked my installation of the stator to the mounting plate and that plate to the retainer ring(for the advance)and all three can only be installed one way.The retainer ring has a cut out where the wires come thru on the mounting plate and the stator can only be mounted one way.This is why I feel I have a problem with this stator.I will try your home made spark tester-Thank you, and to the other reply,I do own a timing light which I plan on using at WOT in the water,but first I need to get this running on land.Has anyone ever had a problem with a new stator? CDI # 173-1651"
 
Has by any chance the sensor c

Has by any chance the sensor cables been switched in a plug?
What happends if You just put cyl1 plug-lead on 2 and 2 on 1?
 
But you could use this timing

But you could use this timing light while cranking the motor over and it would eliminate a lot of " guessing "
 
"Morten -I tried that original

"Morten -I tried that originally and no change what so ever,as far as the timing light at cranking speed what degrees should I be looking for at my mark on the casing in relation to the flywheel? As far as the sensor wires being swithched-I'm color coded correctly and when I called CDI Electronics to ask that same question the tech assured me even if they were switched it would not effect the starting ability of the motor,maybe a high speed miss possibly.I have my stator with me today at work and I'm going to ask CDI to compare this one with another one on the shelf.This stator is making great spark, just not at the right time(in my opinion) I don't know,maybe I'm way off base here but everything points toward this new stator,I wish there was a way of installing this incorrectly but it appears to be foolproof, what bugs me is that when I disconnected the linkage for the advance and moved the mounting plate for the stator I was able to get it to kick, so I feel I'm headed in the right direction."
 
"Many flywheels have the cente

"Many flywheels have the center magnets locked in to the center portion of the flywheel via a epoxy material of some type, then covered with a plate that surrounds them, leaving small slots in the covering that excites and engages the sensors to trigger the SCLRs in the circuitry/powerpack etc.

If your flywheel has this type setup, check that area for a possible melting and shifting of the covering ring.

If the above setup does not exist, I'd suggest that you exchange the stator that you have, obtain a refund, or purchase the more expensive factory stator."
 
"Well everyone I finally got t

"Well everyone I finally got this beast running!!!The problem was the wires on the new stator. I installed them per their drawings and which also matched the factory color coding. After speaking with CDI Electronics again today,we went thru the stator wiring one by one and he told me if the white with a black tracer and black with a white tracer were to be reversed, this would put me 180degrees out of wack on my spark timing,BINGO-soon as I heard that I new I had my problem solved. I guess upon assembly they grabed the wrong color wires and did their solder job. Thank you to everyone who took the time to try to help-I appreciate it!!! Jack Oriente"
 
"Just one more note- Morton, y

"Just one more note- Morton, you wanted to know if any of the wires were swapped in their plug? Well they actually were, just not by any mechanic or person, just a faulty assembly of a new stator which acted as the same exact thing. Thanx-Jack, This is a great site you guy's were all super helpful"
 
OMC in fact did a similar thin

OMC in fact did a similar thing back in the 80's.
For one year the orange and orange blue wire from PP changed position! Caused quite a confusion!!
Happy the problem is solved.
 
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