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1980 85 HP Johnson

nydoug

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I just bought a 1980 85 HP Joh

I just bought a 1980 85 HP Johnson Outboard Model J85 MLCSA. Does anyone know if there is a way to choke the engine for easier starts I can't find any choke. Also is there a way i can rev up the engine in neutral without putting it into gear? This motor is very hard starting. Thanx for any help

NYDoug
 
"That model does not have chok

"That model does not have choke butterflies that we're all used to, instead it has what is called a Fuel Primer Solenoid.

It's operation is similar to the electric choke, that is, pushing in the key activates the fuel primer solenoid.... keeping it simple, look upon it as you would look upon an electric choke setup.

Pushing in the key causes fuel to flow thru the solenoid to the carburetor or intake manifold area. Failing to engage this solenoid results in one very hard starting engine as you've discovered. Read on......

(Fuel Primer Solenoid Function)
(J. Reeves)

The RED lever...... The normal operating/running position is to have that red lever positioned over top of the solenoid and aimed at the other end of the solenoid, gently turned to its stop. This is the normal/automatic mode position. Pushing the key in opens the valve within the solenoid allowing fuel to pass thru it in order to prime and start the engine. Looking upon this solenoid as a electric choke results in a better understanding of it.

Having that red lever turned in the opposite direction, facing away from the solenoid, allows fuel to flow thru it to the crankcase area. One would only turn the red lever to this position in a case where the battery might go dead and the engine had to be started via the rope pull method. Look upon putting the red lever in this position as moving a choke lever on a choke equipped engine to the full closed position. Either one would supply fuel to the crankcase/engine for starting purposes BUT if left in that position while running would flood the engine.

The later model primer solenoids are equipped with a schrader valve, used for attaching a pressurized can of fogging oil etc, available at your local dealership with complete instructions.

Pumping the fuel primer bulb up hard fills the carburetor float chambers of course, but that process also applies fuel pressure to the primer solenoid.

The two small hoses leading from the primer solenoid branch off via tees to each fuel manifold section that would feed fuel to the individual cylinders.

Pushing the key in activates the primer solenoid to allow fuel to flow thru it to the intake manifold passageways. Cranking the engine over causes the fuel pump to engage which in turn sends fuel pulses to the primer solenoid via the 3/8" fuel hose.

Some engines incorporates the "Fast Start" feature which automatically advances the spark electronically so no advance of the throttle is required for starting.
Engines that do not have the "Fast Start" feature will be required to have the throttle advanced slightly.

Starting procedure: pump fuel bulb up hard, crank engine and push the key in at the same time. When the engine fires/starts, release the key so that it falls back to the run position.

Bottom line..... Look upon the primer solenoid as an electric choke.

When time permits, visit my store at: http://stores.ebay.com/Evinrude-Johnson-Outboard-Parts-etc?refid=store"
 
There is only one lever-the ma

There is only one lever-the main throttle I do not have a warm up lever but I will certainly try the push in key advice. If for some reason the original controls or ignition switch had been replaced would a different ignition also work?
 
"If you have a console type co

"If you have a console type control, pulling the handle straight outwards will disengage the shift function and allow you to apply throttle without putting the engine into gear. After warmup, returning the handle to neutral will cause it to snap back into place, returning the function to the regular shift/throttle setup."
 
Is it practicle or even possib

Is it practicle or even possible to add an auto trim and tilt to this motor? If so would it be more money than it's worth? It's been a long time since I had a manual tilt.

Thanx

NYDoug
 
Any idea of what kind of money

Any idea of what kind of money and expertise to install this? I suppose I'll need different throttle controller?
 
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