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150 xr6 overheat shutdown

vedder2203

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New to this but my 2000 Merc xr6 shutdown with no temp warning buzzer.had earlier issues with no peeing at idle,but was informed that the xr6 models would not always pee until the stats opened.. the tell tail was peeing at start up and later in trip but did not notice prior to shutdown. motor was very hot to touch and i motered in on kicker.. any ideas..
 
Yes, you need to service the cooling system unless it has been neglected long enough that you welded a piston(s) into the cylinder(s) - that would be my first assumption.

When was the water pump last serviced?

Why was there no warning horn for cooling system? Disconnected? When these sensors die the alarm goes off (a good thing, so at least the problem gets investigated). Was this disconnected to avoid a "nuisance" horn??

Need a little history here (you have owned the motor for years or new to you or been running fine for .....), and a better description of what exactly happened - ie, was running fine at full throttle, slowed right down and died or was running at about 2000 rpms and locked right up or whatever.

(not trying to pick at you here, but you need to draw us a picture since the motor is not in front of us to poke at)
 
I purchased the Boat this febuary. To my falt im not sure when the water pump was last replaced, or the empeller,or stats... The salesman showed me that the compression as at 115 +- on all cylinders.. The motor is a pump not prop. HAD ISSUES WITHE THE TELL TAIL STREAM NOT PEEIING. tThe service dude informed me that the XR6 models would not pee at times do to the stats not opening until hot and that they would after 20 seconds plus or minus.. I also was told by him that it would pee once i got up in rpms.. also when i was checking out what the sevice dude told me about the tell tail stream and such, i noticed some times at idle it would steam
out the exaust port at idle at times. I was told it was a 2 stroke thats what they do smoke? it seemed like more steam then smoke though . So when i was out yesterday it was peeing fine at idle and take off. Had no steam issues.. I ran the river at 3/4 throttle a mile then shut her down for a while to run my kicker motor..when I ran back up river again with the main it seemed fine .. You know i dont constantly check the tell tail steam but do often since the earlier issues.. The motor ran fine but all of a sudden cut out and sqeeked a little.. it was very hot. there was no sirens warning beeps nothing. I dont beleive they have been diconnected but they did not sound. Pisses me off but here i am.. The motor did smell a little burnt oil/ eclectrical hot.. like I said I am new at this and thank you for your time and knowledge..
 
So you bought it from a dealer? give you any warranty??

You say "pump not a prop" - so you mean it's a jet drive (no propeller - shoots a water jet out of a (nozzle) like a sea doo?)

Yes, 2 strokes do smoke a bit on start-up especially if they have been sitting more than a couple of days. The fuel in the system evaporates a little leaving the oil behind. When you fire her up you will get some smoke. It should be blue-ish in colour and should go away after a few seconds, once the engine warms up a touch - unless it is running waaaaay oil rich.

And yes, it may take a little for the motor to start peeing, but it will do it at idle and it should be quite strong. If you hold your hand under it at "anytime" it should be nothing more than warm - nothing warmer than "bath water" for sure.

The exhaust relief (a hole or holes at the back just below the pee stream and on the leg of the motor itself) should always be spitting water even if the thermostat(s) have not opened yet.

And yes, at higher rpms the thermostats are bypassed whether or not it's up to operating temperature and you should get a strong pee stream.

The motor should never be too hot to touch. The operating temp is in the 140-165 degree range which is quite warm but should not burn your skin or anything like that.

You should never get steam out of either the tell tale or the exhaust relief - if you do that is certainly an indicator of a cooling system issue.

Now, you are not sure about the status of the alarm. Did it give you a short beep when you first turn the key?? It should to let you know it's working. That would at least confirm the alarm module is present/connected but not necessarily that the temp sensor is connected.

Aside from it sounding like it overheated that "squeak" is more than a little concerning - that's the sound of a fried powerhead - keep your fingers crossed.

This motor would have been oil injected from the factory (on-board oil tank). Was/is it still functioning? Did you mix your gas with oil or did you rely on the oiler?

At this point have you done anything with the motor - tried to start her up?

If not I would suggest you pull out the sparkplugs and try and turn the flywheel by hand - see if she is free moving or you have something welded in a cylinder.

If it moves freely I would do another compression test - a regular automotive gauge from a discount auto place will work fine. You are not so much looking for an absolute number (like 115 psi), but you want to make sure all cylinders are within 10-15 psi of each other.

Depending on what you find then you can move on to the next steps of figuring out what happened...
 
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Dealer Yes! Warranty No! It is a Jet drive and the initial 2 stroke blue smoke was normal but now obviously the white steam was not..So flywheel moves not super freely but it turns( almost a hesitation ). havnt removed plugs yet need the right socket (lol.) looks like alarm wires are connected. Pulled bottom plate off and verified that. The alarm does do the initial beep at key turn but that is it .. it is oil injected with the on-board oil tank and ive been relying on the oiler.
I have not tried to start.. I did notice what i beleive to be the temp sensor wire ( brown w/blue stripe ) was smashed and cut completely due to bad routing and wearing between cover and edge of head. this is concerning but evident.
Thanx again will do compression test soon... wire.jpg
 
Yes, that's definitely the temp sensor wire that is cut.

The "hesitation" when trying to turn the flywheel with the plugs IN is normal (you are compressing the air/fuel/oil in the cylinder so it kinda "hitches" before continuing to turn).

The compression test will tell you a bit more..
 
So after getting my crap together i proceeded with a compression test. resulting in # 1,3,4,6 (@105) and cylinders
#2 and 5 (@ 60 ) Plugs Were what seemed not evenly warn and oily around thread base.
 
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