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Robert Crichton
New member
Username: robbo99
Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 01:22 am: | 
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Model number 574-59552. Anyone know what year it is? As well ,searching for an owners manual. I am a beginner at this and before taking it apart would like some guidance. I don't think it has been started in several years. Started it today and suspect something may be wrong with the fuel pump. It starts adn then cuts out after a few seconds.....if I continue pumping the primer pump it will run and as soon as I let off that it just dies.
Any help for a beginner would be awesome...... |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 1430
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 08:24 pm: |
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Robert, that's a 1967, twin cylinder, built by McCulloch (better known for chainsaws etc) for Sears.
McCulloch actually got out of the outboard business in 1965 but continued to supply Sears with (basically leftovers) until 1969.
Although parts are dwindling for these motors, there is still a relatively healthy supply.
A great source for parts/manuals for these motors is www.discount-marine-supply.com additionally, some parts may still be available through Sears - just have to ask.... |
Robert Crichton
New member
Username: robbo99
Post Number: 2
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 09:29 pm: |
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Thanks Graham! I will have a look at that web site. Problem being though.....I really don't know what part I need. I have a fuel flow problem. I have cleaned the fuel filter, added carb cleaner but still a problem. Fires up OK and just conks out....if I pump the primer hand squeeze adn it continues to run. Any idea on the problem?? |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 1433
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 03:34 am: |
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Robert, that would (normally) indicate a fuel pump issue - since your "pumping" is taking over the fuel pump manually...
You can drop an email to the guys at the site I gave you. Excellent dealer with tons of experience and can probably point you in the right direction... |
steven retzloff
Visitor
| | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 07:15 pm: |
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sears ted williams 9 hp boat motor model # 57459542. what the year? where can i get water pump impellers for cooling system? thank u. |
scott puffer
Member
Username: brim_buster
Post Number: 100
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 06:00 am: |
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1967 elgin and try ebay for the impellor |
Rick Newman
New member
Username: goforit
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 08:27 pm: |
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Trying to find out what year my 9.9 Ted Williams outboard motor is and who made it for Sears,
#217-58621-0 There is another # 5d-246773 also pn the same label. It's a Twin Clylinder Automatic SolidState Ignition. Does any body have a motor cover for this engine? I bought a 7.5 cover on E-bay and thaught it would fit  |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 4579
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 10:58 am: |
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Rick that is a 1975 model, built by Eska for Sears.
Eska is long out of business, they were one of a number of builders who made small outboards through the 60's/70's.
The good news is that they bought all their powerheads from Tecumseh, which is very much in business. Your particular model has a Tecumseh 380 model motor which was used in a number of other small engine applications, so parts can be sought (should you need them) from most small engine places.
As to other parts, such as the cowl, you may have to find a recycler, such as www.twincityoutboards.com
They are a little pricey but will most likely have what you need if you become impatient with places like Ebay or Craigs list.... |
Wayne Rowlinson
Advanced Member
Username: winman99
Post Number: 182
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 08:47 pm: |
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Hey Rick,
Wow, I typed a whole longwinded message and lost it.
Long story short. I have a cowl for you. It is buried inside a boat that is covered for the winter, and I won't be able to access it for about a month.
These motors have electronic ignitions that are known for blowing (I have 2 with bad ignitions) and Tecumseh no longer makes replacements.
The good news, is there are probably some in your area that are in otherwise good condition that have blown ignitions that you could pick up cheap.
Like Graham said, they were made by Eska. The picture under my name (at the time of my writing this)has a picture of my good running 1975 Eska 9.9. You'll notice the only difference is the color and the sticker.
If you don't have any luck, click on my name to get my email address and let me know. You worry about getting it shipped and it's free.
Good luck. |
philip king
New member
Username: philpot80
Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 01:00 pm: |
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hello, i have a sears ted williams 9hp
serial number 68600910-2752
model number 574-59740
can i get a year and manufacturer on this. it runs perfect but could use a reference for it, maybe a place to get parts if i need them. |
tod watson
New member
Username: topdog091773
Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 10:02 am: |
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i have a elgin 7.5 hp don't know the year and need some help it will go backwards but not forward model# 574.60080 |
william g moore jr
Member
Username: william_m
Post Number: 27
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 12:20 pm: |
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Tod- you just have the wrong prop. That was a pull and go, or just had a neutral. |
Rick Newman
New member
Username: goforit
Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 04:03 pm: |
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Looking for a place to purchase Carbuater parts for my 9.9 sears model T380A Tecumseh. Looking for valve/flap Tecumseh # 631555 and Gasket # 631554 and
Scree/filter # 631553 and Element/Pump # 630953.
Any one know who may carry these parts. Tecumseh says they know longer make them and have been eliminated from their parts. |
william g moore jr
Advanced Member
Username: william_m
Post Number: 101
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 11:58 pm: |
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Last week there was a post and pic of the carb kit you are looking for it was $28. and had everything. Sorry I can't be more specific. |
Bob Setzer
Member
Username: eskaguy30525
Post Number: 34
Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 01:02 am: |
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I had the complete carb kit's but currently out of them, go to ebay and search eska, they are available for around the same price, thank's |
Chad R
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Username: chad
Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 01:18 am: |
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I would like to know the year M/N 574-59740 and S/N 68600910-1434 I just bought this Ted Williams sears twin cylinder 9hp and It sat in the guys barn for 7yrs I got it home and mixed some gas and it fired up so I went and bought new plugs what else should I do to it? It don't go as fast as I would expect a 9 hp to go on a 13ft aluminum boat . I also looking for a tear down diagram if there is one. Iam looking for somewhere to buy parts the only ones I can find is ebay store sanfords goodies. |
Rick Newman
New member
Username: goforit
Post Number: 3
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 07:53 pm: |
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9.9 Sears Ted Williams 1975 can't get it to idel. I just purchased a new carb kit and had a lawnmore shop refurbish my carb, I also put brand new spark plugs in to. I put it in the water and had to use starter fluid to get it to fire up, once it got running I had to keep giving it gas to keep it going. I also noticed that the pee tube was clogged up with something and no water was coming out. The gas I was using was left over from two years ago,not sure if that has anything to do with it not idelling down. When I got home I cleaned out the pee tube and it let out a little water but not to sure if it will work. Any suggestions out there. Also what is the oil to fule ratio? |
william g moore jr
Advanced Member
Username: william_m
Post Number: 189
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 10:09 pm: |
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If this is the twin cylinder from eska you might try a little extra oil in the fuel. They were a ported crankshaft (no reed valves) which depended on a laverenth seal between the cylinders to get them to work right. If the main bearings got some wear on them the would wobble around a little and not want to run right.
2 year old gas is a problem. Get the fresh stuff and mix TCW oil at 24/1 for starters and the next tank you can reduce the oil some.
Make sure the pump is going -and would replace it if you don't know it's age.
These sometimes would loose a bottom crankshaft seal and run badly. When all else fails, turn the powerhead up side down off the housing and spray wd-40 on the seal and spin it over. (no spark plug leads attached) if you get bubbles, thats the problem.
That ignition was like a light bulb.
Never disconnect the little white coils and turn it over- very hard on the "under the flywheel" stuff. I used to solder the leads on them just to prevent an accident.
Take you timing light and see what the ignition is doing. You may have corrosion on the magnets or the unit might be going south.
In the last few years many parts sources have shown up for the eskas. If you need parts, repost and I'll run the list. |
Rick Newman
Member
Username: goforit
Post Number: 4
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 03:51 pm: |
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Thanks William, Yes this is a twin cyc. I will try new gas and put in a new impeller. Wher do you spray the wd40? And would you recomened taking off the fly wheel and sanding down the magnets and mag? By the way the motor ran great at high rpm but I did not leave the dock, being afraid of not getting back. I could use the list of available parts. I did just purchase a Manual and a new impeller. Is TWC oil a name brand? |
william g moore jr
Advanced Member
Username: william_m
Post Number: 199
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 05:06 pm: |
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After you have exhausted all other solutions, you can take the engine off the rest of the outboard and turn it upside down on the bench. The bottom seal is round the crankshaft splines. Spray the wd-40 there and pull thru with the starter and if the seal bubbles, you need a new one.
I would only get to the flywheel if the ignition is dropping out. If it fires good and steady, leave that sleeping dog alone.
TCW is a classification of 2-stroke oil and stands for "two cycle water cooled" The grade or quality is a two or a three after the tcw. Most oil producers make some brand of it. |
