Clinton Outboard Question

Author Message   Mike Evans Posted on Saturday, December 13, 2003 - 06:30 pm:    I inherited a Montgomery Ward Sea King 7hp outboard Clinton Engine Corporation Model k700 2106A Serial 742688 Type 60 27407R. Any idea of date of manufacture (pre or post 1969)? Please respond to mevans629@hotmail.com   glenn Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 12:55 am:    my name is glenn my mate hase a 115 hp outbord evinrude 1969 mod i dont know a thing about outbords it gos good when it gets hot it wont start after it get swicth off it gos when it cools it got a new pump in it and pumps good do you know what could be the prublem thanks batmanman67@hotmail.com   Mike Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 08:55 pm:    Does anyone know if you can still get parts for a Montgomery Ward Sea King 7hp. Model:K7002107A, serial #: 647946, type: 6027370R, manufactured by Clinton Engine Corporation? Please respond to: ratdawgz@bytehead.com   Stan Kalenda Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 12:13 am:    Have a Clinton engine 7.5hp. - runs good but prop doesn't turn when in gear. Sounds like maybe a shirr pin or gear is stripped? Any ideas? and how to fix this? Please reply to: spuds3030@yahoo.com Thanks!!   Ray Brown Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 01:33 pm:    Have a Wards Sea King/Clinton Model# XTV.52329A, S/N 1602954, Type# 900-7106A. Could anyone tell me the year and horse power. Thank you.   Thomas Campbell Visitor Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 10:36 am:    I have a Montgomery Ward motor with the following info: model: k500 31080 serial: 1051747 type: XIV 52250 Could anyone give me the model year and hp size for the motor? Thanks, please email any info to tadc@kywls.com   jeff melhus Visitor Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 11:41 am:    I have a montgomery wards sea king / clinton outboard model #k200 3106a. it is 2hp. can anyone tell me the right spark plug for this motor?   jeff melhus Visitor Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 02:00 pm:    i have a 2hp sea king made by clinton engines. model#K200 3106A. serial#951386. type#xtv52202. can anyone tell me the correct spark plug for this motor, along with year,fuel mixture & any other info? thanx   Josh K Visitor Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 08:27 pm:    I inheritaed an 7 horse Montgomery Ward Sea King model # K700 1107A Type 27270 R is there any idea of a manufacture date and anywhere i can get original parts?   Stephen K. Linn Visitor Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 12:57 am:    I just bought a Wards Sea King 3.5 HP outboard motor manufactured by Clinton Motors Corp. The model # is K350 5106 A. Can enyone tell me where I can find out when it was built and how I can get an owner's manual and a service manual? Thank You. Stephen   Robi Visitor Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 03:38 pm:    I have a 7hp Sea King mdl #K7002107A Ser #657337, I am looking for an exhaust gasket. Does anyone know where I can find parts?   Jac Jepson Visitor Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 11:10 pm:    I have a Wards Sea King (Clinton Engine) 9 horse outboard; looking for a fuel pump.   michael picklesimer Visitor Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 11:46 pm:    I have a 7hp sea king model K700 type 6027370r looking for air filter assembly and possibly more.   DJ Patterson Visitor Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 08:56 pm:    My father-in-law has a Clinton Outboard that was his fathers. He would like to see if it runs but is uncertain of the gas/oil mix. Can anyone help? The model and serial number are J9 1101 0 Ser. # 101123   jimRudnick Visitor Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 02:59 pm:    A J9 Clinton takes a 32:1 mixture. 4 OZ to 1 gallon.   ken cox Visitor Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 06:53 pm:    do you know the year of a seaking 7.5 hp model vwr52179a   Patrick Jacobson Visitor Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 10:39 am:    Looking for a Walbro LMB-179-1 carb for my Wards Sea King/Clinton air cooled 7.5 hp outboard. Any help is much appreciated! Thanks!   Bob Grenier Visitor Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 02:13 am:    I just inherited a 3.5 hp outboard motor. Bad news is it's previous owner painted the cover and I can't read what button and knob does what. This thing runs, but I'm not sure if it's air cooled, and or if it's an oil/gas mix or what. I can figure out most of this by trial & error but I'd like to know if I can come up with an owner's manual for this motor. It's model number is K350 4000A--sn is 70476. Would like to know the year of this thing and whom it was made for Sears/Wards??? Can anyone help?   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 1478 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 08:40 am:    Bob, you should have started a new discussion - you almost got lost here. Anyhow, you have a Clinton 3.5 horse Air-Cooled model built somewhere between 1976-80. You can mix 2 cycle engine oil (for lawnmowers/chainsaws - NOT Marine oil) at a ratio of 24:1 with regular unleaded gas and it will run fine for you. Clinton went bankrupt a couple of times over the years and finally completely called it quits in 1980 - so the records are a little scarce and I can't narrow down your model any closer than above. Because it has a Clinton model number (as opposed to a Sears or Wards) it may simply have been marketed as a Clinton engine. You can most likely find a manual at www.discount-marine-parts.com just email them with your model number and I'm sure they can hook you up...   Richard E Miller Visitor Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:53 pm:    Do you have any idea where I can find parts for a Clinton motor, model # J7001102B. Please e-mail me back at wfavette1@yahoo.com   Mike Blevins Visitor Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 09:54 pm:    hi my grandfather past recently got a 7.0 hp motor model# k-700 1107 A Serial# 593208,from his house and I can pull the cord so not locked up I hope anyway, what kind of gas mixture do I use in it, }and how can I get a manuel so I can try to fix it up and get it running   Jeremy andrew spencer New member Username: jeremy_spencer Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 04:16 pm:    Hey i have a 9Hp Clinton Cheif and i have no idea when it was manufactured. Model no: K900 5101 C. Serial no:1410195.   Robert May Visitor Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 08:25 am:    I have a Clinton Engines Corp. outboard motor, Model No. K300 3106A, Serial No. 940554, Type No. XTV 52203. Can anyone tell me when it was made, what the fuel mixture should be, what type of spark plug to use, and ony other owner information. Please respond to robert_may@urscorp.com. Thank you.   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 2151 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 12:09 pm:    Robert, I believe your type is actually KTV (probably obscured a bit). Your motor is a 1975, single cylinder, 3 horse, built by Clinton for Montgomery Wards (store brand). The fuel mixes at 24:1 - regular unleaded gas and 2 cycle engine oil such as used for lawnmowers and chainsaws - NOT marine oil. You can use an NGK BM4A spark plug gapped at .030" (or a Champion cross ref to that NGK).   Robert May Visitor Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 01:16 pm:    Graham, thanks for the information. Would this motor be air cooled or water cooled. It has cooling fins to make me think it is air cooled but it also looks like it has a water intake hole also.   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 2171 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 12:19 am:    Robert, yes it's air cooled. The exhaust housing/lower unit were common to a number of outboard mfg's - so water cooled so it was built to accomodate both...   BucSloan Visitor Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 08:21 pm:    I have just got a clinton outboard but know nothing about it; Manufacture date, Hp rateing, fuel mix, where to get parts or if I can, any info would help Model no. K7515106 B Serial no. 1382891 Type No. XTV 50575 B   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 2232 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 12:35 am:    Your type is actually KTV 50575 B - they must have printed the "K" poorly, because many list it that way. Your Clinton was built by them for Mongomery Wards and sold under the store brand "Sea King". It is a 1978 (clinton model K751), single cylinder, 7.5 horse. The few clinton's that I have seen are air-cooled engines and I have no information that they ever produced a water-cooled model (but can't say for sure). If your motor is air cooled you can mix it with regular unleaded gas and 2 cycle oil (such as used for lawnmowers/chainsaws) - not marine oil at a ratio of 24:1. Both Clinton and Montgomery Wards are out of business so certain parts may be hard to find. There is a number of sources on the internet that can provide you with tune-up/ignition parts or alternately, a local small engine shop may be able to help you out since the carbs, point etc were of a fairly generic variety...   Bud Fuston New member Username: budley Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 09:44 pm:    I purchased a Clinton Sea King outboard. 4 HP Model # K4002106A--Serial No. 681380--Type No. 60-27404R It runs, but not well. In the carb. bowel was the seat for the carb. needle. I have 24:1 chainsaw oil in the gas. I have ordered from Dave Henshaw a manuel but have not received it as yet. Do you know what year it was built and can I seat the needle sleeve with the needle valve?   Bud Fuston New member Username: budley Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 01:34 pm:    To edit my email from 1-11-08 09:44 pm, after looking at the carb again the brass seat was not from the needle valve. Could not even get to the bowl. Don't know where it came from! I am a woodworker and not a mechanic. Any help would be much appreciated. I also have more numbers from the carb but don't know if they mean anything. Thank you for any help you can give me.   crazyhwk9 Visitor Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 05:32 pm:    i have a j9 clinton motor does anybody know the hp rating   crazyhwk9 Visitor Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 05:57 pm:    it has a type #15-14-9-6-0-7   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 2870 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 10:09 am:    The J9's are 5 horse motors built in the early 60's. These are air-cooled so you use normal 2 cycle engine oil such as used with lawnmowers and chainsaws (NOT marine TCW-3 oil). You can mix with regular unleaded gas (86/87 octane) at 24:1..   Frank Perras Visitor Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 07:36 pm:    Attention Graham Lamb I just pick up a Sea King 7.5 Clinton Outboard it pulls great with what seems to be good compression the problem is the prop shaft and prop are missing along with the shaft gear, thanks to you on one of your other post you had my model number and indicated the year 1978, since you have a wealth of information can you direct me to a vender who by some remote chance could have the parts I am looking Thank You Frank Perras   scott puffer Member Username: brim_buster Post Number: 36 Registered: 01-2008 Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 06:54 am:    " WOW "}}}   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 2991 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 08:22 am:    Frank, if anyone has what you are after it will be a place called twin city outboards www.twincityoutboards.com Their stuff can be a little on the pricey side compared to other recyclers but they have "everything"....   Frank Perras Visitor Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 09:02 am:    Thank You Graham for the information I am waiting for an answer back from the link you provided Twin city Outboards.   Frank Perras Visitor Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 12:52 pm:    Also, Graham after going thru a cleaning process with this Sea King 7.5 HP and checking to see I have spark on the plug and it seems like its primed I am beginning to get a really good pull back on the cord after I make a complete pull thru. I am not to familiar with outboards so is this normal? is it about to fire off?? I dont have this secured very well so I want to ask questions first. Thanks   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 2997 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 07:00 pm:    Frank, you only need three things for the motor to fire - compression/gas-oil-air mix/and a spark. If you are feeling a bit of resistance and you have spark I would suspect that there was insuffient gas in the cylinder or it would have fired for you. However, a weak spark could prevent it from firing as well. Did you throw in a new plug?   Frank Perras New member Username: frank_perras Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2008 Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 11:35 pm:    Graham, I located the air intake on the carburator behind some bracket and using a small squirt can put just a little gas in the carb and it tried starting so I believe this is a good engine that some how lost its prop and shaft,?? perhaps broke, bent ?? but I think it is now worth pursuing the parts. I called the Twin Cities Outboard and I need to send in my lower unit so they can match up what I have, so that seems to be where I am at unless I can find the same model and hp who has other problems and buy the whole outboard I guess the cost is something around 80.00 + shipping   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3003 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 08:35 pm:    Frank, you could easily find another 7.5 clinton on Ebay for that price. Perhaps that would be the way to go and use what you have as spare parts. They are fairly simple little engines and you could keep one going for quite a while with the parts from the other...   guyrum Visitor Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 04:06 pm:    i've got a sea king 3.5 hp made by the clinton engine corp. i need the fuel inlet device that will allow me to hook up a gas tank   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3006 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 - 12:51 pm:    Your piece may be difficult to find and expensive when you do find it. An easier/cheaper solution is to find an OMC/BRP dealer (evinrude/johnson) and get an OMC gas connector for the engine end. They are inexpensive and standard for all OMC models - ditto the fuel lines (or change your fuel line connection to OMC as well). Even my Merc's have OMC fittings at the engine now and they work great....   Frank Perras New member Username: frank_perras Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2008 Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 07:31 pm:    Graham, the 7.5 Sea King I have been working on is now running great, wow what a find, I do have another question you have said these are air cooled with the fins on the motor and surrounding area, my question: is the exhaust water cooled or air cooled as well, on the rear side of the leg just at the top of prop there is a vent opening that looks like it could be an intake. Thanks   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3023 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 08:22 pm:    Frank, could be one of two ways. Most of the small "generic" outboards used a common "leg" (exhaust housing). An OMC will have the same leg and it's a water cooled motor. So the "common leg" was designed for multiple applications. Some models had a water cooled exhaust as you mention - others were strictly air cooled. I believe alot of the 7.5's had a water cooled exhaust, but off the top of my head just can't say for sure   Frank Perras Member Username: frank_perras Post Number: 4 Registered: 04-2008 Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 08:27 pm:    Graham, along with that 1978 7.5 Sea King I also got an older Wards outboard motor, Model is 64GG-9005 Ser # 34639 here is a picture of what I have can you tell me anything about it, the motor has compression and turns the prop when pulled but I see no spark but then the spark plug wire looks pretty bad.the unit appears to be complete   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3032 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 12:23 am:    Frank, that is a 1945/46 Gale (OMC) model 133 - single cylinder 3 horse. The 3 horse Gale in that vintage was also sold under the brand names Hiawatha and Sea Bee.   guyrum Visitor Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 06:10 pm:    i've got a sea king 3.5 hp made by the clinton engine corp.whats the 2 cycle engine oil ounces of oil required per ratio to a gallon of gas???   Frank Perras Member Username: frank_perras Post Number: 6 Registered: 04-2008 Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 09:34 pm:    Graham I have determined that the Gale 3 hp has no spark and after removing the top from the ignition area and doing a little clean up there I am wondering if the capacitor is the problem since it may be the original one, I cleaned up the point with a point file, lightly and repaired some of the wires but most all of it is very old and tender. how do I determine what capacitor should replace this one, I understand a capacitor just stores energy and its that other stuff in there that generates it so what other tests can I run to narrow this down to what the problem is ?? I am lot short on terms here so forgive me. Thanks Frank   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3056 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 11:32 pm:    I don't know of any way to test the condenser - it's one of those things that you replace when everything else checks out good. I do imagine it shouldn't be too difficult to come by a new one. You could try www.discount-marine-parts.com   guyrum Visitor Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 07:54 am:    i've got a sea king 3.5 hp made by the clinton engine corp.whats the 2 cycle engine oil ounces of oil required per ratio to a gallon of gas???   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3094 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 11:58 am:    The mix rate is 24:1 (regular unleaded) and normal 2 cycle engine such as used for lawnmowers and chainsaws, not marine 2 cycle TCW-3 oil which is designed for water cooled engines. I can't tell you how many ounces to the gallon. In Canada and the U.K. our gallon is larger than in the US (plus we now mostly deal with litres/milliliters). In any event just about every bottle of oil for 2 stroke motors has a chart on the back label and will give you the oz/gallons or ml/litres as the case applies for a number of different ratio's...   Jeff Skelton Visitor Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 03:51 pm:    I have a 1969 Sea King 3.5 (Clinton) OB needing a complete recoil assembly. Also, needing a fuel connector. Any idea where I can find these items?   Ray Rumbaut Visitor Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 12:40 pm:    Graham, I just was given a Montgomery Ward Sea King outboard model XTV 50576, Type # K7517106 Serial no. 1606300, dunno what year and not sure of hp but by the looks of it I don't believe it is larger than 6hp. Any information and precautions about it would be great help to see if I can kick some life into it.   tomf Visitor Posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 11:22 am:    ray, it's 1980 7.5 hp   Scott Cochrane New member Username: skoter Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2008 Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2008 - 01:59 pm:    My brother in law recently picked up a Sea King 7 hp motor. The motor cover also says Montgomery Ward on it. We are looking for the proper gas/oil mixture for it. Motor info as follows: Model # K700 3107B Type # 6027370R Serial # 925600 Any help would be appreciated also would like to know the year of it.   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3285 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 12:52 am:    Scott, you have a Clinton outboard built for Wards and sold under their store brand "sea king". You can mix it at 50:1 but use normal 2 cycle motor oil (such as used with lawnmowers/chainsaws) not "marine TCW-3" oil. This is an air-cooled engine and needs the regular oil. From what you have posted I can't give you a year. The K700's were built over a number of model years. On the tag should be another number "KTV" followed by some digits (sometimes looks like XTV) - that will give the exact year...   Scott Cochrane New member Username: skoter Post Number: 3 Registered: 06-2008 Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 08:05 am:    Thank you kindly Sir   TIM ZIMMERMAN Visitor Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 11:43 pm:    I HAVE A MINT 3.5 HP SEA KING (CLINTON ENGINE) MY QUESTION IS WHAT TYPE OF GAS FITTING TO USE DINT COME WITH ANY IT LOOKS LIKE A MURCURY? PLEASE HELP ZIMMERMAN@JEFNET.COM   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3306 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 08:17 am:    Tim, the 3.5 Clinton built models originally had an "internal" fuel tank, so it was simply connected to the carb by a piece of hose with a shut-off valve spliced in. Are you wanting to hook this up to use a remote tank?   Jeff Skelton Visitor Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 09:59 pm:    Graham--I have the same motor as Tim Zimmerman--a 1969 3.5 H.P. Wards Sea King manufactured by Clinton--It uses an external fuel tank with a unique connector at the engine. I need the same hose connector. Is there a common connector, such as OMC or Mercury that would work? By the way, I located a recoil assembly at http://www.anglersfishinginfo.com/classified/motors.html buy did not find a fuel hose connector--any suggestions?   Jeff Skelton Visitor Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 10:51 pm:    I thought a couple of pictures might help   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3310 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 10:03 am:    Sorry, wasn't looking back far enough with my Clinton manuals - both of you have "J" model Clintons (J350 more precisely). I have found original Clinton part numbers for the fittings - 69-331-500 was the male end and 69-332-500 the female end (the end on your motor in the picture). Don't have a clue where you would find one though. Personally might be inclined to change both ends - looks like maybe the Merc round style connectors may "cosmetically" fit. If you aren't worried about looks, for less than 20 bucks you can get OMC fittings - engine mounted and hose end (which I use on my Mercs) simply because all "OMC's" are the same so only need to carry 1 spare gas line that will fit whatever I have hangin' off the back...   Jeff Skelton Visitor Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 02:10 pm:    For the Clinton built 3.5 HP Wards Sea king a fuel connection to engine kit (not the original) is available from Discount Marine Parts for around $20. Look them up on the Web at http://www.discount-marine-parts.com/index.html and give them a call at 906-466-2180. They were very helpful. Hope this helps everyone...   bill murray Member Username: willhunt Post Number: 7 Registered: 05-2008 Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 07:06 pm:    How can I find out the year of my Johnson motor?   ronald ford New member Username: petef Post Number: 2 Registered: 06-2008 Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 11:21 pm:    I CAN GET PARTS FOR CLINTON ENGING CALL 817-231-2167 ASK FOR PETE   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3369 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 03:29 am:    Bill, post your model number - can look it up...   guyrum Visitor Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 05:09 pm:    everybody i've talked to says you can't get parts for the seaking/clinton engine.thats why i gave the one i was going to buy back.   ronald ford Member Username: petef Post Number: 5 Registered: 06-2008 Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 02:36 am:    i found them and thay are open and i got parts on 6/5/08   mikegreig Visitor Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 07:14 pm:    I have a Ward Seaking 6hp model vmb19074a serial 66x10357. Can you still get parts for this motor and if so where? I don't want to work on it if I can't get parts. Mike   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3388 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 07:50 pm:    Mike, Wards is out of business and Chrysler who built this 1966 model motor has been out of business as well for over 20 years. Some parts are still available, depending on what you are looking for and what it may need. Personally, I wouldn't spend very much on it. Even in perfect running condition it is worth somewhat under 100 bucks in the used market....   John V Visitor Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 07:12 am:    I recently acquired a Montgomery Wards 7.5hp outboard. The Metal tag in front of the engine says it is a Clinton Model: K7515107B, Serial: 1521561, Type: XTV50507B. So far I have been reasonably successful in getting this little engine to run. However, the plastic Cover/Fuel tank is broken badly. Can anyone help me locate a Owners / Parts manual or a replacement cover.   Andy B Visitor Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 03:49 pm:    OK here is the label of what I just got (Wards 5HP): http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/arbarnhart/5HPmotor.jpg Can you tell year or anything in particular I should know? Is this the hard to find fitting? http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/arbarnhart/5HPmotor1.jpg Someone is going to give me a line fitting he thinks may work, but if it doesn't Iwill take the advice above and convert it. Mine was stored dry (properly; it was shipped and then shelved) and I need to add the lower unit oil. I ordered a manual, but I want to go ahead and get this done if I can. The vent plug is obvious - in the exhaust/water outlet. Is the fill plug one of the screws for the prop gear housing? This one is in pretty amazing shape. It looks like it was pretty much rebuilt or at least refurbished when it was shipped and then just set aside for whatever reason. Everything turns freely. I was still taking a chance buying it dry, but the guy's story rings true (shipped to him, kept it as a spare for a while, doesn't want to mess with setting it up so selling cheap - $60). Of course I already spent another $40 or so getting a tank and line, and $9 on a manual, and...   Andy B Visitor Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 04:13 pm:    That's me above - I followed some lnks in other posts and figured out it is a 1974 Clinton K 500 made for Wards as Sea King, but that is all I know...   Andy B Visitor Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 10:32 pm:    Me again - I got the fuel line assembled. I tried to lube the lower trhough the screw holes and I don't think I really got it proper. I cranked it just to see that it would. No problem! But I really need the lower unit info (my manual will come, but if someone can clue me in sooner, I would appreciate it.   pamela mcnurlen Visitor Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 05:09 pm:    The gas tank cracked on our montgomery ward sea king 3.5 boat motor, its internal built in. Does anyone know where we can find the replacement part?   A B Visitor Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 05:54 pm:    I had a little Tanaka (sp?) with an internal tank that cracked. I don't know if it is the same stuff, but it is one of the few things I have used the two part "plastic weld" (NOT epoxy) on that it worked perfectly on. I meant it really lived up to it's name - it was like the plastic melted at the cracked and formed back together. It never leaked again.   Mac Robinson Visitor Posted on Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 03:24 pm:    does anyone know if these Clinton motors run good or not? I know of someone trying to get rid of a 9hp for a little under $300 and I have a 14ft. jon boat I was thinking of getting it and putting it on but havent really heard of these motors. Just didnt want to sink money into a motor that doesnt run strong, what the comparison to the old evinrude or johnson motors? any info would help! Thanks, Mac   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3572 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 04:50 pm:    Mac, Clinton made a decent motor. However, they are long out of business. Parts can be difficult to find, and expensive if you do find them. A 9 horse Clinton is worth no more than 100-150 bucks in the used market, it probably only cost about 300-500 brand new depending on the year. You can't compare it to an OMC or a Merc of the same period. A 9 horse Clinton probably came from the late 70's - a similar "Brand" name would sell for 500 or more, would still be somewhat supported by the mfg to some degree, would have a solid ignition system and be a water cooled motor. Additionally, this is a single cylinder engine. So unless tuned perfectly it will shake like a wet dog outside on a cold day - a major mfg would have built this in a 2 cylinder model. The 9 horse was a combination air cooled/water cooled motor. The engine itself was basically a lawnmower engine and was air cooled. The exhaust was water cooled - helped keep the noise to a minimum among other things. If it's running well it still is a decent motor, but not for 300 bucks - it's worth half that if it's in decent shape...   Mac Robinson Visitor Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 07:43 pm:    Thank you so much for the info galamb! I deff. dont wanna spend money on a piece, and im not even sure if its tuned good or not! so your info is greatly appreciated, I will just sit back and wait on a johnson or a merc to come up that I can afford! again thanks so much for the help!   donna argue Visitor Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 07:27 pm:    I have a wards sea king 7.5 hp motor 1978 or 79. It has been hanging in my gargage for 23 years. Its in mint condition, I do not no if it runs or not. I need to know what tc-w oil is. I would like to sell it but have no idea how much it is worth. please someone e-mail me and give me an idea of how much its worth..   donna argue Visitor Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 07:31 pm:    I have a wards sea king 7.5 hp motor 1978 or 79. It has been hanging in my gargage for 23 years. Its in mint condition, I do not no if it runs or not. I need to know what tc-w oil is. I would like to sell it but have no idea how much it is worth. please someone e-mail me and give me an idea of how much its worth..   ken hash Visitor Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 10:54 am:    graham i see that you're the expert on these little engines. i have an old 3.5 hp sea king model number vmb27903b serial 86x21793. what year was it made and where can i get a prop for it? oh and how much is it worth if any? thx   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3620 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 11:15 am:    Ken, not really the expert - just have alot of info laying around If you wipe away some more of the guck you will find the model to be VWB 27903B, which makes it a 1968, single cylinder, 3.5 horse Chrysler built for Montgomery Wards department stores. I can't even find a part number for a prop, or anyplace that sells them. I was never too fond of Chryslers and have limited information as a result. Laings Outboards sells most maintenace parts for this and as a shot in the dark you could try getting ahold of the guys at www.discount-marine-parts.com - they used to be a Chrysler dealer way back and still have tons of factory parts - might be able to help you with the prop (or at least a part number and a nudge in the right direction). As to value - not much, 25-50 bucks if it's running....   jdgroh groh Visitor Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 07:12 pm:    i just purchased a clinton mod. aj91000b serial -200395 does anybody know where i can get a manual and it appears to be water cooled and could anybody tell me how many hp mine is and what the fuel mixture is. thanks jdgroh@yahoo.com   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3637 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 02:32 am:    jdgroh - I can send you an original owners manual/parts manual in pdf format. Click on my name to the left and drop me an email - if you put your model in as the title, I will get it right off to you... The manual will answer all your questions...   Lynne Visitor Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 07:55 am:    Hi, Just purchased a Clinton air-cooled outboard model j5 1105, serial 095835, type unknown. Excellent condition and runs really nicely. Can anybody (galamb?) give me any info - hp, settings, fuel mix, year of manufacture etc. Thanks, Lynne (UK)   Andrew Walker New member Username: sea_nymph Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2008 Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 11:56 pm:    i have a clinton outboard model #w100 1000 serial#31227 and was wondering if anyone could give me some info about it.I am not sure what type of oil to run or what ratio to mix it at.   Frank Maraulo New member Username: frankm Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2008 Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 02:57 pm:    I just received a Sea king GG8860A, 75X702426 is there any body out there that could tell me the year, HP Fuel Mix repair Manual Exc. anything would help thank for your help. Frank   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3687 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 04:16 pm:    Frank, that is a 1957 Gale (OMC), dressed as a Sea King for Montgomery Wards department stores. If you clean up the tag a little better I think you should find that the model is actually GG8960A, making it a twin cylinder, 5 horse identical to Gale's own model 5D14 "buccaneer". Should mix at 24:1 and if you are looking for a manual you could try www.discount-marine-parts.com and for parts you can try www.laingsoutboards.com   Louis Young Visitor Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 08:21 pm:    Thanks to the Outboard Motor Club and this question thread I have determined that I have a 1954 Clinton Model 25 that my Grandpaw left me. Now the fun begins. I figure I will begin by trying to find a service manual and have inquired to Discount Marine Parts. Any chance anybody out there may have access to one laying around? BTW, not sure the significance, but the other numbers on the motor are 8 2 3 1 1 I and 0005272. I'll try to attach a picture here so you can get a look. (My Grandpaw painted it, and I haven't cleaned it up yet)   David Farmer Visitor Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 12:37 pm:    I have a Clinton Apache outboard I recently purchased that is missing the fuel line to the remote tank. I'm not sure what the year or model # is since I'm at work. Someone tried to tell me I need an expensive pressurized tank that has dual lines. There is only space for one line at the connector on the engine. It basically looks like a Mercury connection,just smaller and shallower. There are 2 lines coming off the connection going to the engine so I'm stumped if I can convert this to another style or not.   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3945 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Monday, August 25, 2008 - 05:32 pm:    David, the Apache's were Clintons J5/J6/J9 series and all those models had fuel pumps and a single line. "Someone" was a little confused between Clinton and OMC. OMC did have models, late 50's for sure that had a dual hose, one to pressurize the gas tank with a line then up ultimately to the carb.... What I would do is go with a more readily available connection. All my motors, especially my Mercs have been converted to modern OMC connections (the cheapest on the market) - they are universal so regardless of what I have hanging on the back of the boat, I can use a single fuel line without fumbling around for the Merc/Yamaha type, Merc bayonette type etc etc....   David Farmer Visitor Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 08:36 pm:    How would one go about doing that? The fuel pump is on the tiller handle. The only way I can figure is to run a small hose off the existing port and connect an OMC fitting. Would this be correct or is there a better way?   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 3958 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 12:07 am:    The pump or the "connection" - you can move the connection back to the cowl unless you are bent on keeping it "original". If you just want functional, you can fashion a small bracket, or cut a hole in the cowl etc etc..   JESSIE DAVIS Visitor Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 07:30 pm:    I HAVE A SEA KING/ MONTGOMERY WARD 5 HP /CLINTON ENGINE OUTBOARD. MODEL K5OO3108C SERIAL 1090038 TYPE XTV 52250 CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THE YEAR AND ESTIMATED VALUE?   david adcock Visitor Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 12:41 am:    I HAVE A SEAKING MODEL K7514106A TYPE XFV50475A WHAT YEAR IS THIS AND HOW IS IT COOLED HELP PLEASE   Ron Wofford Visitor Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 04:41 pm:    need help m#50011060b ser#370093 type#6027005r clinton engines corp wards sea king what do i have need year and eng hp and need some parts can anyone help   DWAYNE DURANCE New member Username: dduranc2 Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2008 Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 08:03 pm:    I'M LOOKING FOR A FLYWHEEL FOR A K700 7HP. CLINTON OR A PLACE THAT REPAIRS THEM   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 4288 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Friday, December 19, 2008 - 09:05 pm:    Dwayne, you can try www.twincityoutboards.com They can be a little on the pricey side as far as recyclers go, but have just about everything...   Wayne Greyling New member Username: wayne_g Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2009 Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 08:30 pm:    Need info, Wards/Clinton 3.5hp Model K3504106A Serial 1011120. Type XTV 50534 A Found it under an old work bench, knocked of the dust and it fired right up! Any info like oil/fuel mix would be appreciated.   Pamela Needham New member Username: nawneeto11 Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2009 Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 08:09 pm:    Hey Graham, I emailed you but I don't think it went thru. I need a manual for a Clnton engine, and info on how to find a water pump for it. Model # K 700 3107A Serial # 922798 Type # 60 27370 R Please tell me you can help...   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 4520 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 01:32 am:    Pamela, yes I can - will email it to you as soon as I dig it out - it's in pdf format..   Pamela Needham Member Username: nawneeto11 Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2009 Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 08:59 pm:    What year is my motor ?   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 4525 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 12:44 am:    Pamela, it looks to be a 1975 model based on the serial - I will try and get the manual to you in the morning.   Pamela Needham Member Username: nawneeto11 Post Number: 6 Registered: 02-2009 Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 08:16 pm:    Graham Lamb, where can I find the water pump for my Sea King ?}   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 4529 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 02:37 am:    You can pick up most parts (including water pump/impeller) from www.laingsoutboards.com   Pamela Needham Member Username: nawneeto11 Post Number: 7 Registered: 02-2009 Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 04:44 pm:    Thanks Graham, You were so very helpful.   Dave Hamm New member Username: hammy129 Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2008 Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 01:48 pm:    Hi, I've got a 1980 Sea king 9.9 and I' looking for some parts( float bowl gasket, recoil spring,& threaded stud for shift mechanism) having a tough time finding schematics or part numbers. Any and all help would be appreciated. Thank's Dave   Kathy Houser New member Username: kathouser Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2009 Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 11:23 am:    Hi, I have an outboard motor made by Clinton Engine Corp. I have searched the internet to find any info, but no luck. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Kathy Model # XTV50507B Serial # 1574730 Type # K7516107A   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 4611 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 12:22 pm:    Kathy, that is a 1979, single cylinder 7.5 horse built by Clinton and sold by Montgomery Wards under their SeaKing line. This particular model was sold by Wards in 1978/79/80. The Clinton model (as noted in the type) is a K751. I have an original owners/parts manual for that model in PDF format. If you would like it, just click on my name (to the left) and drop me an email - I get lot's of mail so if you put K751 in the subject I will remember what you are looking for Both Clinton and Wards are long out of business, but should it ever require parts www.laingsoutboards.com is a good source for most items you might need.   Kevin New member Username: kevink Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2009 Posted on Saturday, April 25, 2009 - 12:09 pm:    Can anyone tell me when it was made, what the fuel mixture should be. Also i need aircleaner. Clinton Engine Model# K500 1106A Serial# 430074 Type# 60 27205 R   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 4892 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Saturday, April 25, 2009 - 05:24 pm:    Kevin, she was made by Clinton (now long out of business). Clinton sold engines under their own name, plus built many for Montgomery Wards which were sold as Sea Kings through the 1970's. It's a 1972, single cylinder, 5 horse. The K500's came in two different versions - a purely air-cooled and a blended (air cooled powerhead, water cooled exhaust). I don't have detailed enough Clinton lists to be able to tell you exactly what you have based on your model numbers. (but suspect that the 1106A part indicates that this is a "blended" model, so there will be an impeller in the lower unit). In any case, neither model had an air-cleaner and both run on the same mix - 40:1 (the manual actually calls for 3oz oil/per gallon of gas = 42.66:1 - 40:1 is close enough) using regular unleaded and 2 stroke engine oil (such as used for lawnmowers/chainsaws - NOT Marine TCW3 oil which is designed to burn in cooler running engines)...   Kevin New member Username: kevink Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2009 Posted on Saturday, April 25, 2009 - 10:59 pm:    more   Kevin New member Username: kevink Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2009 Posted on Saturday, April 25, 2009 - 11:00 pm:    Thank you Graham, looks like my engine is with water cooled exhaust. Want to show pictures to make sure it don't need air filter, cleaner or any cap on carburetter.   Graham Lamb Senior Member Username: galamb Post Number: 4900 Registered: 05-2007 Posted on Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 11:14 am:    Nice looking little motor. And yes, even though it would seem that there should be an air filter or baffle or something there, that's the way it was designed - the carb just hangin' there like that. The little Merc's (6/8/9.9/15 horse models) had the carb just hangin' like that well up until the mid/late 1990's. The oldest of my three models with no carb cover of any kind is a 1986 that I have had since new. It has over 2000 hours of run time on it and the lack of a filter or cover has not caused it any issues...   joe greenia New member Username: smokinjo Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2009 Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 07:16 pm:    i have a clinton 5hp model k500 what spark plug goes in it   Brian R. Hoeben New member Username: pathfinder27 Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2009 Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 12:09 am:    I picked up a Clinton 7hp K700 series motor dirt cheap at an auction. Any idea how to drain and fill the lower unit? Or do I need to remove the prop and the four screws that hold on the bottom portion. The normal drain/fill screws are not on this one. I ran it for a minute to make sure it works and it does great! Now want to service it to keep it that way. Thanks for your time.   Brian Bywater New member Username: bigbredneck Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 08:57 pm:    I bought an Montgomery ward motor at a yard sale the women selling it didn't know what year or what size motor it was there is a couple of numbers wrote on it model # GG9001c serial # 65x617757 any one help? Thanks B   darwin roth Member Username: darwin Post Number: 11 Registered: 06-2009 Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 06:41 pm:    anybody know where I can get a carb float for my montgomery ward 7 hp outboard?   william g moore jr Advanced Member Username: william_m Post Number: 350 Registered: 05-2009 Posted on Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 11:26 am:    Just about any lawn mower shop- and don't forget the little dampner spring if it had one.   darwin roth Member Username: darwin Post Number: 12 Registered: 06-2009 Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 11:32 am:    thanks, found one I could bend to fit.....now a real problem...I have had the powerhead off to fix the waterleaks and have used the motor since reassembling it. Now all of a sudden when you shift it into gear the prop does not turn. It feels like it it is engaging at the handle but the prop doesn't turn and the waterpump does not start pumping....what did I break now.....tks   darwin roth Member Username: darwin Post Number: 13 Registered: 06-2009 Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 02:43 pm:    Graham l I tried to email you to get a copy of the manual for my m/w clinton 7hp K700. It rejected saying your email is shut down,,,,If you could I would love to have a copy. Thanks Darwin   william g moore jr Advanced Member Username: william_m Post Number: 371 Registered: 05-2009 Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 03:56 pm:    There were a few different types of neutral and I have no references for you motor however if you would like the generic repair book I can direct you there.   darwin roth Member Username: darwin Post Number: 14 Registered: 06-2009 Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 04:06 pm:    never mind the prop not turning, I thought the waterpump wasn't working, got my magnifying glass out and noticed it was pumping water so checked my shear pin, yup, broken...thanks though   william g moore jr Advanced Member Username: william_m Post Number: 372 Registered: 05-2009 Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 07:02 pm:    Did you find your "spares" near the transom clamps?   Paula Bryant New member Username: leftys Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2009 - 11:19 am:    I have a montgomery ward sea horse 6hp, model #VWB19074A, cannot find a model year guide for this motor.   Jim Gillen New member Username: toga_jim Post Number: 2 Registered: 09-2009 Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:09 pm:    Looking for a fuel line to fuel pump fitting for my 1970 7hp J700 Clinton / SeaKing or a way of retro-fitting.   Kris Smith New member Username: bb84ss454 Post Number: 1 Registered: 09-2009 Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 04:49 pm:    I just came into possesion of a Clinton made Sea-King 9 hp engine. The guy said it runs but he didn't run it for long because it didn't show signs of water circulating. He said he thought it might need a water pump. I pulled the hood off and it looks like an air cooled motor to me. Could that be? I have no idea of the year or any numbers as of yet - didn't think of writing them down.   Kris Smith New member Username: bb84ss454 Post Number: 2 Registered: 09-2009 Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 10:05 pm:    I finally wrote down the numbers for my 9 hp motor. Can someone figure out what I have and if there is a water pump in it? - It looks like the motor is air cooled but I had someone tell me it is water cooled. Model: K900 5106A S/N: 1420633 Type: XTV52309B   william g moore jr Advanced Member Username: william_m Post Number: 464 Registered: 05-2009 Posted on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 12:30 am:    It has a water pump. But all it does is keep the bottom seal and bearing from frying in the exhaust.-Helps keep the paint on the intermediate housing also. This was as far as the "air-cools" went engineering wise. Yours should have a real forward and reverse gear box/ solid state ignition and the "tin can" fuel pump. Almost all the parts interchange with the 7.5 of that design. Try the engine in a trash can full of water and see if you get a little spray (not much) from the exhaust relief ports going down the back of the motor.   Kris Smith New member Username: bb84ss454 Post Number: 3 Registered: 09-2009 Posted on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 08:32 pm:    Does anyone have a manual or breakdown so I can figure out how this thing comes apart?   william g moore jr Advanced Member Username: william_m Post Number: 466 Registered: 05-2009 Posted on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 10:39 pm:    send me your e-mail and I'll get you the "generic" repair book.   Kris Smith Member Username: bb84ss454 Post Number: 4 Registered: 09-2009 Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 10:50 pm:    Well, I kept messing with it and got it running. The guy that had it before me had the shear pin in the wrong hole and it wouldn't engage the drive slot in the prop. I moved it to the outer hole and it works fine. I can't tell if the water is circulating or not. I might need to fill the trash can a little more - the exhaust was blowing water everywhere. I'll try again tomorrow. I would still like someone to e-mail me a manual if they have it. This is a 9 hp. (it looks like a Cleveland Browns inspired motor) Model: K900 5106A S/N: 1420633 Type: KTV52309B   Kris Smith Member Username: bb84ss454 Post Number: 6 Registered: 09-2009 Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 03:37 pm:    William - please send it to bb84ss454@aol.com Kris   Kris Smith Member Username: bb84ss454 Post Number: 7 Registered: 09-2009 Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 10:24 pm:    OK, I tried it in a little more water. I put my hand near the hole and I got a tiny bit of water on my hand. After looking through the manual that William sent me,(thank you so much) I see that it should be checked while in gear, if I'm reading it right. If we ever get any decent weather in N.E. Ohio I'll try it on the water.

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