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William Baldridge
New member
Username: sandmanwv
Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 05:48 pm: | 
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I have looked through the posts but have not found anything relating to my situation. Recently I was left a boat and Montgomery Ward Sea King 5. Problem is it has been setting for about ten years and I know absolutely nothing about it.
The model number is 35GG-9015A
serial number is 474264
Can someone give me any info about it? I don't know what gas/oil mix I should use, I don't even know if it will run. Especially appreciated would be recommendations to restore it to proper running condition.
Thanks |
Wayne Rowlinson
Member
Username: winman99
Post Number: 5
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 11:23 pm: |
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35GG9015A Looks to be a 1953
It looks like it's original spark plug was a J6J (you can look up its replacement), and 1/2 a pint to the gallon of gas. That's a 16:1 ratio, and it's going to smoke. Don't get carried away with using a leaner mixture. Some will tell you that with today's oils you can go leaner, but I wouldn't recommend it, especially if your going to be running it full throttle, It will need the lubrication. Be sure to use a good outboard 2-cycle oil. |
Will
New member
Username: willsterman
Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 11:13 pm: |
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I just picked up my grandfathers Sea King 5 hp Model 35GG-9014A, after having it serviced. I took it for a little spin and it ran fine. This one had sat for about 25 years, so I took it for service before I even tried to start it. The mechanic fixes lots of old motors and said he: Cleaned the points, probably checked the gap on them too, replaced the condensers, cleaned the carbs, and replaced the lower unit grease (oil?). Total charge $30. I couldn't believe the low amount I was charged. Before he looked at it he said he would determine if it was worth fixing since he couldn't get carburator parts and the coils were expensive. He did say they are good running motors if they don't have expensive or irrepairable problems. He recommended using good quality TCW III oil such as Mercury and mixing 20 to 1. He said 16 to one would foul the plugs too easily. My number is so close to yours, it must be about a 1953 also, although I'd like to know for sure. Mine doesn't put out much water from the exhaust grooves above the water, so I hope the impeller is OK. Good luck with yours. |
Curt Jensen
Member
Username: mnobfan
Post Number: 31
Registered: 01-2007
| | Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 04:35 am: |
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Will, the 9014A is also a 1953 model year. I usually don't see more than light spray from the grooves on my Sea King but does increase some with increase in engine speed. As long as you can place your hand on the side of the motor (side covers removed) and not feel uncomfortable heat you shouldn't have a problem. From the sounds of it your mechanic knows his business. If in doubt ask him to do a tank test. Although it is highly probable he did that when he tuned it. |
Curt Jensen
Member
Username: mnobfan
Post Number: 32
Registered: 01-2007
| | Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 04:40 am: |
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Hopefully someone else can explain the difference between the 9014A and 9015A. Both are 1953 5HP motors made by Gale for Wards. Cross referenced to Gale as models 5S10 and 5D10 respectively. |
Will
New member
Username: willsterman
Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 12:41 am: |
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Thank you Curt. I appreciate the information. |
William Baldridge
New member
Username: sandmanwv
Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 03:54 pm: |
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Where is the water pump located?? I took 4 bolts out of the bottom and there was oil and a shaft but no impeller. |
Graham Lamb
Advanced Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 166
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 07:34 pm: |
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Not familiar with the motor, but it may be on the prop shaft instead of the drive. Some early Mercs were like this as well... |
Konrad
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| | Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 02:12 pm: |
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Hello...I have read most postings from folks with Montgomery Ward Sea King outboard questions pertaing to Year Identification and manufacturer. I have a 5 HP Sea King Model # GG9001B, S/N 55596885. If anyone can provide information on this motor, it would be greatly appreciated. The motor is intact and has good compression. I added a 16:1 fuel oil mix and tried starting it with no luck. Figuring the points may need attention, I pulled the flywheel and found the ignition coils (2ea) with their insulators cracked from age?? The insulators look to be a red plastic material which is peeling and breaking away from the coils. I believe that that's the reason that I am not getting ignition. The points looked great and appear OK as well as the condensors. I would like to replace the coils and am wondering if there is someplace that still sells parts for these old motors. Anyone out there that can provide feedback - it will be greatly appreciated. |
Will M
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| | Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 11:49 pm: |
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Konrad
I am far from an expert; however, the mechanic that worked on my SeaKing used some parts from GLM marine. http://www.glmmarine.com/pdf/JohnEvin_Catalog.pdf
Look at page 144 or thereabouts. My mechanic used condensors for an old evinrude. I'm not sure if the coils would work or not. GLM Marine may know, but they may not sell direct to the public. |
DALE MAREK
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| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 02:50 pm: |
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I HAVE AQUIRED A WARDS SEA HORSE 5HP, WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE TO FIND PARTS IN CENTRAL TEXAS. MOTOR RUNS WELL. NEEDS WATER PUMP, PLUGS, POINTS, AND CARB KIT. THIS IS A MODEL XTV505554 WHAT YEAR WAS THIS MADE. |
Konrad
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| | Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 12:11 am: |
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Thanks Will...very good information and also a very nice catalog. This will surely help get my 5 Horse Sea King King Model # GG9001B running again. |
Lou Ondracek
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 03:13 pm: |
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I have a 1968 Sea King 5 hp model # GG-18801A. It ran good until this year. Can't get it started. It's getting gas to the carb, and I believe beyond that. I've cleaned and gapped the plugs but have not torn into it enough to check the points or such in the magneto. Anyone have any advice? |
Wayne Rowlinson
Member
Username: winman99
Post Number: 9
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 11:21 am: |
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Have you checked to see if you are getting any spark? Remove the plugs and rest the metal threads against a good ground, such as the engine block and pull the cord. Make sure there is spark jumping across the gap (do it in a shady spot). If so, squirt a couple drops of mixed fuel into the cylinder (or cylinders), reinstall the plugs and try. If it sputters, you likely have carburetor issues. If you left fuel in since last year, there is a good chance you have varnish and other gunk clogging the jets in the carburetor. Hope this helps. |
Jeffrey Harris
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| | Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 09:37 am: |
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Hi,
I've been reading these posts with a great deal of interest. Recently (Oct. 20, 2007) I was scuba diving in Lake Minnetonka when in about 7 feet of water I discovered a Montgomery Ward model#35GG-9015A Sea King 5 motor laying on the bottom. I brought the motor home with me. The lake has caused some corrosion and the gas cap is missing but I would think that this motor could be used for parts. It must have been running very well before it went to the bottom of the lake because it still has part of the boat in its grip. Does anyone have advise on what I should do with this motor? 612-221-1282 |
Wayne Rowlinson
Member
Username: winman99
Post Number: 10
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 11:56 am: |
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Is the motor able to turn over, or is it seized up? If it turns over, it may be easily salvageable. One thing that worries me is that the gas cap is missing. It would be unlikely that the cap would come undone while submerged. What may have happened is that someone sunk it on purpose. I have heard of people taking old wooden boats out and sinking them on purpose, sometimes with old broken motors attached to them, or lying in the bottom to help them sink. Some claim it makes a good artificial reef for fish to gather. Regardless, if it is not seized, or too badly corroded, it would make a good project. Otherwise, use it as a decoration. |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 2002
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 12:14 pm: |
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Jeffery, I would agree with Wayne. That was originally a pretty nice little motor. Built by Gale which was a division of OMC, so a fair number of the parts may be the same as a Johnson/Evinrude of the same era.
That is a 1953, twin cylinder 5 horse model. Might be well worth disassembly, a good clean up and then an assessment of possibility of getting it running again.... |
Jeffrey Harris
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 12:14 pm: |
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I'd be willing to give this 5hp Motgomery Ward motor to someone. I have no where to display it myself. Anyone interested? |
D L Ballard
Visitor
| | Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 01:48 pm: |
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We have an old Montomery Wards Sea King, decking has rotted where battery sits, any ideas on how to repair this?
Thanks for any help. DLB |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 2994
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 07:34 pm: |
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I assume you are talking about the decking on the boat? Although this is an "engine" website, can maybe point you in the right direction.
What material is the deck built with - wood? fiberglass? aluminum? steel?? |
Shelly LaGrange
New member
Username: tinkerbell
Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 03:14 pm: |
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i have just purchased a montgomery ward with a 7 h\p by clinton my problem is how to lubricate the bottom unit can anyone help thank you. |
MattTaylor
Visitor
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 02:36 pm: |
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Hi... I have a VWB 52298 US Marine Sea KIng motor. I know it's a 1985 model. The motor will only run while it's choked. It will put around, but won't plane out while being choked... any ideas? |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 3260
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 03:26 am: |
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Sounds like the carb needs a good cleaning - probably a partially clogged jet... |
MattTaylor
Visitor
| | Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 10:04 am: |
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Do you think Gumout or something would do it, or do I have to mechanically push something through the jet?(makes me nervous)Should I get a gasket kit for after the cleaning? |
Wayne Rowlinson
Member
Username: winman99
Post Number: 26
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 01:41 pm: |
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You could soak the non-rubber parts in carb cleaner to loosen gum etc. I have a trolling rod that uses wire line which is fine enough to fit through any jet holes I've ever come across and use that as well.
If you can salvage the old gaskets and are 100% sure they seal properly, go ahead, but for the price I'd replace them. I'm not familiar with that engine, but there are likely some diaphrams inside the carb to pump the fuel that may have weakened over time.
Although by your post it sounds like you intend to disassemble the carburetor, just make sure you don't use automotive carb cleaner in the fuel while the engine is running as it can damage your engine. |
MattTaylor
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 02:10 pm: |
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Thank you so much Wayne for your knowledge and advice! |
Gary Scovill
Visitor
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 11:02 am: |
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My son was given a M Wards Sea King 3. Model GG9006A, SN 75X656795. It runs good, but he can't determine if its air or water cooled. There doesn't appear to be a water pump or inlet/outlet ports, but there are no fins that you might expect on a air cooled engine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
Wayne Rowlinson
Member
Username: winman99
Post Number: 33
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 07:52 pm: |
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Hey Gary,
Your motor appears to be a 1947-48. Made by Gale (OMC).
It is water cooled, but the impeller is in the lower gear housing connected to the prop shaft vs having a water pump/impeller setup above the gears where you would normally find them.
To get at it you have to remove the prop, then there is a plate you have to undo which will give you access to the impeller. There is a seal behind that that you should look at replacing if you have it apart.
There are still impellers available out there. If you need to, you can email me and I can direct you to a few sites that you will likely find one at.
Hope this helps. |
Gary Scovill
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 12:20 pm: |
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Thank you so much Wayne. I will pass this on to my son, and email you off list. He is very good with small engines, but I'm sure he will need help finding parts. |
chad bell
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 03:48 pm: |
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I've got 1 45GG-9015A I'm trying to get running with my father in law. He discovered the clutch cable (?) is broken. Any suggestions on where to start or where to find a drawing? |
scott puffer
Member
Username: brim_buster
Post Number: 64
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 05:26 pm: |
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chad, i have pdf repair manuals i will email you. |
chad bell
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 10:19 am: |
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Scott, Thanks alot, I really appreciate it. email is bellc@inopakinc.com or cebell71@comcast.net |
Dave Ameigh
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| | Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 08:41 pm: |
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I have a 1948 5HP Montgomery Wards Sea King boat motor. Have had running in a barrel of water and it pushes oil through exhaust into oil a lot. Has'nt run in along time, will this clear up? Where would I get new rings? Where can I get a repair manual or even a motor brakdown picture. Thanks |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 3367
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 11:56 pm: |
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Dave, if you have your date correct your motor will have been built by Gale (OMC).
However, this is a 2 stroke, so the oil won't be a result of bad rings. Oil in the exhaust is quite normal. If you have a super excess it's because of either too much oil in the gas or motor is running a little too rich and not burning enough of your mixture up.
You may be able to get a manual from www.discount-marine-parts.com |
staciklang
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| | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 08:17 pm: |
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I am desperatelt trying to figure out the year my 15HP Sea King was made. Can't register it until I found out.
Serial#:30095
model#:VWB 52115B |
staciklang
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 08:19 pm: |
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Sorry....
Sea King 15HP
Model: VWB 52115B
Serial: 87X 30095 |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 3409
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 04:32 am: |
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That is a 1978, Chrysler built (for Wards), twin cylinder 15 horse... |
Scott Bowman
Visitor
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 07:11 pm: |
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hey i have a 1968 ward sea king 6 hp and my pull start assembly has broken off the motor housing and info on where to find old parts or a repair manuel would be greatly appreciated, i have spent hours trying to find on the internet with no luck THANKS!!! |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 3418
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 07:46 pm: |
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Scott, can probably get a manual from www.discount-marine-parts.com
For parts, you can try www.twincityoutboards.com - not the cheapest recycler in the business, but have absolutely everything.... |
scott puffer
Member
Username: brim_buster
Post Number: 76
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 05:57 am: |
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scott, i sent you repair manuals in pdf format for your motor. hope they help. |
jeff Boots
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| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 03:58 pm: |
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I have a 3 hp montgomery wards sea king model GG8804A. I got it running but it got hot fast. Any one know how the water pump works. I dont know what to do now. |
scott puffer
Member
Username: brim_buster
Post Number: 78
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 09:45 pm: |
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were you running it in a barrel or in open water? |
Wayne Rowlinson
Member
Username: winman99
Post Number: 37
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 02:34 am: |
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You have a 1960 motor made by the Gale division of OMC. It likely has an impeller on the prop shaft, not in the middle of the gear housing like most outboards. |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 3454
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 09:24 am: |
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If you are ever looking for replacement parts for some of these older/discontinued models you can check out www.laingsoutboards.com - they have supplied me with waterpump kits for my 59 Gale 40 horse for a number of years now... |
randy springston
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| | Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 11:10 am: |
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newbie onboard here. i have just bought a 5 hp
sea king motor at auction. can anyone tell me
year model and proper oil/gas mix ratio? all help
greatly appreciated. model number is vwb19072 and
serial number is 46x12384. |
Amy Clarkson
New member
Username: thesassybaker
Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2008 - 01:10 am: |
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I am trying to find a manual for parts and service for a sea king model #35GG90144 serial number 430771 can anyone help me? |
Dawn Mielke
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| | Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2008 - 12:13 pm: |
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We aquired a Montogomery Ward Sea King 3 hp model # 35GG-9004B serial # 506074.. Where can we find info on this motor? ie: year made, value, etc? |
Dawn Mielke
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| | Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2008 - 12:17 pm: |
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We aquired a Montogomery Ward Sea King 3 hp model # 35GG-9004B serial # 506074.. Where can we find info on this motor? ie: year made, value, etc? |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 3458
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2008 - 12:36 pm: |
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Dawn, that is a 1953 model, built by Gale (formerly a division of OMC).
There are litterally thousands of these old, low horsepower, generics out there. If it is running well it may be worth 50 to 100 bucks, but in most cases they can be picked up for somewhere around 25 dollars.
Their value lies if they are still running and YOU can use it, saving you the cost of a newer motor... |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 3461
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2008 - 01:39 pm: |
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Amy, that is also a 1953 Gale model.
You can try www.discount-marine-parts.com
They have copies of manuals for most discontinued models.. |
Scott Bowman
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| | Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 05:38 pm: |
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hey thanks for the help everyone still looking for a 1969 sea king inlet manifold, tried all the sites above with no luck, still spending hours on the net and phone any info would rreaallyyy help THANKS |
paul w
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| | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 09:19 pm: |
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hey guys i have a 1969 55hp sea king i have gear lube comming out of the water holes in the side of lower unit i got the lower unit off but how do you get to seals under impeller if anyone has a web site with instructions or advise i would appreciate it thanks |
Wayne Rowlinson
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Username: winman99
Post Number: 41
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 10:46 pm: |
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Hey Paul. First off, are you sure it's gear oil? Could it possibly be unburned fuel and oil making it's way through the exhaust and out the nearest available hole? Just a shot in the dark. If you want, I have an exploded view of a 1968 SeaKing 55HP that I could give you. If you want, click on my name to get my email address and I could send it. |
paul w
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| | Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 09:19 am: |
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hey wayne thanks for the info yes it was gear oil the drive shaft seal was bad got it fixed. But thank you for your help. |
Bill Snow
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| | Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 01:21 pm: |
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I recently acquired a Sea King 6 from a relative who said it has not ran in years. Model VWB28906A, Serial 86X10158. I know nothing about this motor. I pulled the plugs and they are clean. I removed the flywheel and everything was clean and shiny, but I filed and gapped the points anyway. I put it back together and there is no spark. Anyone have any ideas? I also would like to know what lube to use in the lower unit and what mixture the fuel should be.
Thanks,
Bill |
Thomas Rist sr
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| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 04:44 pm: |
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newbie onboard here. I recently acquired a Sea King 5 out board from a relative who said it has not ran in years.He's Not sure what year this motor was made &
Model GG8960A, Serial 75X664105.
I know nothing about this motor. I'm need a repair manuals & instruction on everything about this motor.can anyone tell me the year model and proper oil/gas mix ratio? You can contact me at tomrist@ptd.net with any help & it would be greatly appreciated. |
Daniel Jackson
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| | Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 11:39 am: |
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I have a 45gg-9015a mongomery ward seaking 5hp i know that it is a 1954 made by gale mod 5d10 but i cant find any parts manuals, the motor has good compression but cant really test any farther because i dont know which spark plugs i need. if any one could help me that would be great. |
Wayne Rowlinson
Member
Username: winman99
Post Number: 78
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 04:55 pm: |
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Thomas, your motor is a 1957. Both you and Daniel need the same plugs. Originally you needed J6-J plugs, now replaced by J6-C, gapped at .035. You need 24:1 fuel/oil (use TCW-3 oil) mixture for these motors. |
Daniel Jackson
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| | Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 08:00 pm: |
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any tips on cleaning my gas tank there is a bunch of "crude" on and around the gas cap and not sure about inside of the tank |
Wayne Rowlinson
Member
Username: winman99
Post Number: 79
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 08:55 pm: |
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I've used good quality screws/washers/nuts - whatever I've had laying around. Shake around until the tank is clean then dump them out. I count how many I put in the tank since a stray can block the fuel line. If that doesn't work, there is also Kreem Tank-Prep and tank sealer, as well as other types of gas tank cleaners and sealers. That is just one brand, but it should give you a good start. |
Daniel Jackson
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| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 11:08 pm: |
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How about lubrication for the lower part of my motor is that a special oil
and thank you for all of your help |
Wayne Rowlinson
Member
Username: winman99
Post Number: 82
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 11:44 pm: |
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SAE 90 outboard motor gear oil. Available everywhere. |
Walter Burmylo
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Username: wallybass
Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 03:21 pm: |
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trying to find year of Sea King Five Model # GG187360 Serial # 26X853414 Thank You |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 3787
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 03:53 pm: |
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Walter, it's all in your numbers.
The "GG" 187360 tells you it was built by Gale (OMC) for Wards.
The first two digits of the serial are the year of manufacture (inverted) so the 26X breaks down to 62 or 1962... |
DanCrummett
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| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 12:08 am: |
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I'm working on a GG9004A 3 hp. Sea King sold by Montgomery Wards for a friend. If someone would be kind enough to tell me the year of MFG I'd appreciate it. I'm confident it's a Gale product.
Also, where is the most likely source of a water pump impeller and seal assembly for this motor? |
DanCrummett
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| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 12:11 am: |
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Whoops...got the combination for figuring year of Manufacture in the last post.... Still need to know where to get an impeller and seal for lower unit.
Thanks,
Dan |
Wayne Rowlinson
Member
Username: winman99
Post Number: 90
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 12:32 am: |
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It is a 1955 (which you probably figured out), http://www.vintageoutboard.com/ is likely the best place for the impeller. You can also try http://tinyurl.com/5l4zgq |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 3840
Registered: 05-2007
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You can also try www.laingsoutboards.com |
shawn
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Username: shawnandcandy
Post Number: 2
Registered: 07-2008
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I just got a sea king the # on it are 74gg9012 I tried to get it running and it will start for about 3 seconds then die,I would love some imput on what this could be,the motor looks as it is almost new and I would like to see her run if any one could give me some good advice I would be gratefull thank you... |
shawn
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Username: shawnandcandy
Post Number: 3
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 08:28 pm: |
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I also have a cruse n carry 6 hp if anyone could help me out with information on how to get parts for this motor I would be gratefull thank you for your time.... |
Wayne Rowlinson
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Username: winman99
Post Number: 95
Registered: 07-2006
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Hey Shawn,
For the record, you have a 1947-1948 model made by the Gale division of OMC.
Running for 3 seconds and dying is likely one of 2 things. It's either starving for fuel, or flooding. Pop the plugs out and see if they are dry or soaked. Have you taken the carburetor off and cleaned it? There are several things to check on that motor before trying to run it for too long. Is it pumping water (which requires it to run for a while), are the coils in good shape, is there oil in the bottom end, plus a few other things. I'd start with a good carb cleaning. |
shawn
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Username: shawnandcandy
Post Number: 4
Registered: 07-2008
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wayne I took off the carb and cleaned it the best I know how just speayed carb cleaner through it,when I opened up the carb the float was in rough shape so I put a new cork in it,when I checked the plugs they seemed to be dry,is ther some kind of fuel pump in the carb? |
Wayne Rowlinson
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Username: winman99
Post Number: 97
Registered: 07-2006
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There are likely gum deposits and "crud" in all the orifices inside the carb. There is no fuel pump on this carb, just gravity and a float system to regulate the fuel. If it were mine, I'd disassemble the carb, cleaning everything carefully and inspecting any needle valves etc. I'd also inspect the inside of the fuel tank to make sure it is clean as well. |
Burt Hengst
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| | Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 03:21 pm: |
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I have a 35HP sea king outboard motor and like toknow the oil/gas ratioo |
dbaurmcg
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| | Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 12:57 am: |
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I acquired a 1961 15hp Sea King (Johnson I think). I took it to the marina where they got it running well. When I was there I thought I heard it get to full speed in the tank. Now it will only get up to full speed right after I start the motor if I throttle all the way. Once i throttle down it will only go to little over half speed. I can kill the motor and start it up and it will go to full speed but if i throttle down or wait a bit before throttling all the way it will go back to halkf power. any info would be great! |
Bobby Lemons
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| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 08:48 pm: |
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I purchased a 1968 wards sea king 3.5 hp motor. been siiting for a lot of years, but cleaned it up did some adjustments runs great. But i need to know if it has a water pump,has plenty of fins on engine put it in a barrel of water but did not see any water pumping out.I see a small curved pipe backside of propeller and a hole abut six inches above prop and seems to be exhaust coming from that also has doubled row of small holes just below engine and thats exhaust. |
scott puffer
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Username: brim_buster
Post Number: 121
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 05:31 am: |
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yes bobby it has an impellor ( rubber) water pump according to my repair manual. the double row of holes is the water intake which is where the water goes into the lower end. the water keeps the lower end cool from the exhaust |
Mark Glawe
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| | Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 07:25 pm: |
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Hi all,
There is a 12' boat for sale in the neighborhood and it has a Wards 3.5 model VWB19069A S/N 66X12474 on it. I'm guessing from previous posts that this is a 1966 motor and that parts are probably still available from some of the vendors listed above. The owner said it runs but needs a tune up. Who made the VWB motors for Wards? It has cooling fins on the cylinder, is it water-cooled also? Last question, if the motor does in fact run, is it worth $300.00?
Thanks, Mark |
Graham Lamb
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Username: galamb
Post Number: 4111
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 12:25 am: |
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Mark, that is a Chrysler built engine (sort of).
The motor itself is worth maybe 50 bucks. If he want's 300 bucks for the whole package and the boat is in ok shape it may be worth it.
Yes, it is a 66 model which is 1 year after Chrysler bought West Bends outboard division. So basically what you have there is a left-over, single cylinder, 3.5 horse West Bend that was kicked out the door by Chrysler and dressed in Wards decals/colours.
If the motor needs much more than a carb cleaning and a new sparkplug, I would personally not spend the money on it. As stated above, it can be easily replaced with even a newer model air-cooled motor for about 50 bucks... |
Dale Borum
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| | Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 12:20 pm: |
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I have a 9.9 Sea King Model # VWB 52299, Serial # 20468. Can anyone tell me the year it was made, and if any other year and or model # lower units will work on this motor. The individual I got it from tried shifting it into gear at WOT. Thanks for any Information, dale |
Roger Kjonaas
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| | Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 04:00 pm: |
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Several years ago I purchased a Sea King, I think 6 hp. Model VWB27906A, Serial 76x12378
I was told to use 40-1 gas-oil but after reading these posts I wonder. I have never used it because it ran bad and now all of the grease leaks out of the lower unit.
Is it hard to replace the seals and am I using the right gas mixture? Thanks for your time!!! |
lane brumm
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Username: lane
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 02:27 pm: |
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Can anyone tell me what year my Sea King 5 is ?
model 45GG-9015A |
Graham Lamb
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Username: galamb
Post Number: 4123
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 09:25 am: |
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Lane, that is a 1954 Gale (OMC) built model.. |
Jeff spencer
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| | Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 09:53 am: |
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Hi all,
I picked up a 3.5 hp Sea King, believe it is a 66 model.
I dont know much about motors but a buddy of mine is helping me with it.
He cleaned the carb out, I put new gaskets, fuel line and in-line fuel filter and new spark plug cable. The motor has good compression.
Some times it starts up on a pull but most of the times it doesent, it seems like its not getting fuel. If we shoot some gas into the cylinder and put the plug back in it starts every time.
Is there something we a missing?
We did clean the jets out.
Thanks for any and all help...Jeff |
Jeff Spencer
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| | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 10:19 am: |
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model # VWB19068B, Se# 66XC12819 |
Phil Doll
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Username: philsk5
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 03:43 pm: |
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I have a Clinton outboard engine model # J9-1101 its air cooled looks old but runs really good .Anyone know how old it is and what size it is?The guy that sold me the boat said its a 7 horse and the boat it came on is a 12 foot aluminum Elgin from the sixties. |
Wayne Rowlinson
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Username: winman99
Post Number: 136
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 05:31 pm: |
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Phil, your motor is a 5 HP - see http://www.discount-marine-parts.com/ob_clinton_1.html
Jeff, yours is a 1965, Chrysler made engine. See http://www.discount-marine-parts.com/ob_sea_king_chrysler_model.html
Jeff, does your motor stay running after you prime it, or just stall once the fuel in the cylinder runs out? When you changed the fuel line and put in the filter, you didn't make it so the fuel has to travel "up hill" did you? Also make sure that you are using the proper size fuel line. Too big and it won't seal tight on the fittings, causing an air leak.
If the motor sat for an extended time, make sure you soak all the metal carb parts (jets too) for a while and blow them out.
Hopefully that is a good starting point. |
jeff spencer
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| | Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 09:16 pm: |
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Wayne,
I fired the motor up today, if I set the throttle in the "fast" position and pull the cord, it runs fine without conking out. When I move the throttle down to "start" it conks out. Does the carb just need to be fine tuned from this point?
It was pulling fuel from the tank, actually ran the tank dry.
What should the ratio be, some say 24:1 others 50:1?
Thanks..Jeff |
Wayne Rowlinson
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Username: winman99
Post Number: 137
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 12:44 pm: |
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It does sound like you have a low-speed jet problem if it runs fine at high speed. Either clogged or out of adjustment. As a general rule, I adjust the low speed jet on a motor I don't know about 1 1/2 turns out from seated and adjust from there (I don't know your motor, so it's only a guess). That's assuming everything else is clean and adjusted properly.
Again, I don't know your motor, but assume it is 24:1 because of its age. If it's air cooled, make sure you use chainsaw type oil. I wish I was more precise, but hope this helps. |
jeff spencer
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| | Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 03:07 pm: |
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Wayne, thank you for the information, I'll try adjusting the jets like you say.
Atleast she fired up  |
mike garrett
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Username: towzilla
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 03:16 pm: |
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Can someone tell me what year this Sea king five is and horse power Numbers are GG18732A serial 26X83049 I need coils for sure other than that are they worth fixing up. It hasn't run for nearly 16 yaers. but ran ok at the time. Tried vintageoutboard but no numbers for my motor. best place to find parts? Thank you. Mike.} |
Wayne Rowlinson
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Username: winman99
Post Number: 161
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 07:01 pm: |
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I can't find any reference to a GG18732A. The closest is a GG-18736A, which is a 1961 5HP. Your motor was made by the Gale division of OMC, and would almost guaranteed use the part 18-5181 listed there. I see this site (marineengine.com) has them cheaper. http://www.marineengine.com/newparts/part_details.php?pnum=SIE18-5181&ptype=&Eng ine=&Model=
Re-check the number. Either that, or hopefully someone else on this site will have information on your specific motor.
Yes, your motor would definitely be worth fixing up. It shares most of its components with Johnson/Evinrudes of the day. As for finding parts, marineengine.com will have most of the maintenance parts you need. |
Earl Chastain
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Username: westerndigger
Post Number: 2
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 04:03 pm: |
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looking for a part for a wards sea king 5hp
part #525781/Interlock starter
goes on the post starter spring guide at the very top. it is #6 under illus. no.
in parts book model no. VWB 52179 page's #8-9
under starter
any help would help greatly
530-533-5004 CA.} |
Mike Shove
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Username: grumpymike
Post Number: 7
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 07:28 pm: |
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You have a Seaking made by Chrysler. A good source of parts for them is: franzmarine.com
816-966-8085. He is located in Grandview Mo.
he has had everything that I needed for my Seaking 6. Good Luck |
Grant Marsh
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Username: gmarsh24
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 03:16 pm: |
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I just bought a sea king with the number 74GG-9012 It was been on an outboard stand in a garage for 12 years but it looks pretty clean and the top turns, so it is not locked up. What should I do as far as cleaning this motor up to get it running. Should I take it somewhere or can I do it myself. Any info on the year of this motor would be handy also. |
Wayne Rowlinson
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Username: winman99
Post Number: 193
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 04:25 pm: |
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Hey Grant.
It's a 1947/48 5 HP, made by the Gale division of OMC.
As far as getting it running after that long sitting, make sure that it has good spark, a clean fuel system, a working water pump impeller, and good compression. As for spark, I'd probably take off the flywheel and make sure the coils aren't cracked and the points aren't rusted. You could possibly cheat this step if you simply remove the plug from the hole and pull it over, but it's better to be safe than sorry. The carb likely needs to be disassembled and cleaned thoroughly, and the tank should be cleaned. I'd recommend replacing any rubber fuel lines the motor has just because the originals would be degraded by now. The impeller may pump water for you, but is likely dried and brittle. I wouldn't trust it to be useable for any length of time, and definitely wouldn't trust it. I don't know exactly what impeller it would need, but since it was made by OMC, it's likely a fairly common one.
I would guess it is part# 900040 at http://www.vintageoutboard.com/JEImpellersLowerUnit/JOHNEVINImpeller_1.html
I have a similar motor to yours, and it ran great for years. It started to overheat back in the days before internet, so I never did get around to replacing the impeller. I hope to change that in the near future. |
Stephen Blankenship
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Username: blanky36
Post Number: 2
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 06:44 pm: |
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I have a sea king 5hp GG8822A ser# 06x779332. Is the water pump at the top of the lower unit or at the bolt on section of the lower unit? I saw a picture of a hiawatha pump and was wondering if maybe the hiawatha was also made by gale products in Galesburg, IL. It was a divison of OMC and made Evinrudes as well. |
Grant Marsh
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Username: gmarsh24
Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 02:33 pm: |
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Hey wayne,
Where is the water pump impellor located on the motor? Also, I got it running, it runs fine on "start" but when I idle down to the red line, it dies. Is there a neutral, also what does the red line above the throttle represent? Also, I have fuel leaking from the top of the fuel reservoir that contains the cork that is pushed down when you prime it, shouldn't there be some sort of gasket on there? Where could I find one? |
William Baldridge
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Username: sandmanwv
Post Number: 4
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 04:39 pm: |
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Can anyone tell me where the water pump is located on a Montgomery Sea King 5 hp model# 35GG-9015A
Thanks in advance!! |
Graham Lamb
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Username: galamb
Post Number: 5207
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 12:05 pm: |
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It is located in the lower unit - that is a 1953 Gale model.
Could either be on the driveshaft or propshaft - don't have a manual for that vintage - but will be in one place or the other.
Try www.discount-marine-parts.com they have copies of original manuals for this model. |
john m gardill
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Username: catfisher
Post Number: 3
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 02:23 pm: |
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Hi
I have a montgomery ward sea king 5hp
model no. k500 3108c
serial no. 1054151
Type no. xtv 52250
it is not getting any spark. I also need a female fuel line conection piece.
please help with this.
john gardill |
lewis hoffman
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Username: lewdy
Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 08:26 pm: |
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can any of you guys tell me what the year and make is on a montgomeryward 5hp seaking is ,red and grey in color and are they good motors, the model number is 94gg9014a and serial number326373; thanks a bunch, lewdys123 |
Graham Lamb
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Username: galamb
Post Number: 5418
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 08:34 pm: |
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Lewis, that's a 1949 Gale (OMC) built model - and yes, they were a great little motor almost 50 years ago. Surprisingly, many maintenance parts are still available... |
lewis hoffman
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Username: lewdy
Post Number: 2
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 09:57 pm: |
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thank you graham for the feedback i very much appreciate it,i just bought it and plan on using it soon, do you know what the fuel to oil mixture reccomend is. |
Graham Lamb
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Username: galamb
Post Number: 5421
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 11:08 pm: |
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Yep - 24:1 - regular unleaded and TCW3 marine 2 stroke oil.
Do yourself and the motor a favour though. Stop by NAPA (or similar) and pick up a bit of bulk fuel line (take a piece from under the hood to get the size correct) and replace it all. The old rubber don't play too well with the ethanol in todays fuel. |
lewis hoffman
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Username: lewdy
Post Number: 3
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 10:02 am: |
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once again thank you for your very helpfull knowledge ,only have one more question and that is what was the original spark plug so i can cross reffrence ; ps i will take your advice on the fuel lines and i reccomend this sight to anybody |
Graham Lamb
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Username: galamb
Post Number: 5424
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:35 pm: |
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I can't remember what the original plug was (may have been a J6C - but guessing), but you can run a Champion, either J11C or RJ12C gapped at .030" - that's the modern recommendation for that motor.
The RJ12C will cut down on ignition noise if you have a radio, fishfinder, gps etc on board. |
Robert Merrow
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Username: moorish127
Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 10:05 pm: |
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I have a 3.5 hp sea king.
Model No. XTV 50535B
Serial No. 1613540
Type No. K550 6106A
Could some one tell me the year of this motor and if an owners manual is still avaiable.
Thank's Bob |
Graham Lamb
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Username: galamb
Post Number: 5436
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 05:24 pm: |
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Robert, send me an email, make the subject K550 and I can send you an original owners/parts manual in pdf form - will dig up the year for you as well by then.
The motor itself is a Clinton. |
Robert Merrow
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Username: moorish127
Post Number: 2
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 12:24 am: |
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K550,
Thank's Graham, that would be great. let me know what the cost will be, & I will pay (via) paypal if that's OK. My e-mail is moorish127@aol.com
Thank's Again Bob |
Graham Lamb
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Username: galamb
Post Number: 5445
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:41 am: |
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Robert, my advice (good or bad) any of my on-line collection which has been scrounged over the years is always free.
I have emailed you the file. It's just a few pages, but is original to the motor and definately worth having... |
Robert Merrow
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Username: moorish127
Post Number: 3
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 06:12 am: |
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Thank's Graham, I got the motor running great.
Take Care Bob |
Robert Merrow
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Username: moorish127
Post Number: 4
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 07:16 pm: |
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GRAHAM, THE MANUAL YOU SENT ME WAS VERY HELPFUL
WITH MY CARBURATOR REBUILD, I DISCOVERED I LISTED THE WRONG NO. THE CORRECT INFO IS AS FOLLOWS;
CLINTON (SEA KING) 3.5 HP
MODEL NO. XTV50535B
SERIAL NO. 1613540
TYPE NO. K350 6106A
THE CORRECT NO. IS K350 NOT K550
I AM TRYING TO FIND A WATER PUMP ASSEMBLY OR AT
LEAST AN IMPELLER FOR MY MOTOR
ALSO DO YOU HAVE A MANUAL FOR THIS MOTOR
SORRY FOR THE SCREW UP.
THANK'S AGAIN GRAHAM |
Graham Lamb
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Username: galamb
Post Number: 5477
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 08:41 pm: |
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Hi Robert, will get the manual off to you.
You can get parts from www.laingsoutboards.com - check under their Sea King link down the left side of the page. |
Shannon Powell
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Username: mrpowell
Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2009
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I need help. I have received a Seas King 5HP outboard. Model #GG18736 ( no letters after ) model #16X823401. The motor ran ok to start with and as i tried to run wide open and it began to stall. I tried to figure out what would be doing that. There are two knobs missing on the front. The choke knob on far right works. The knob in the middle is gone, which seems to adjust high speed. Inside the shaft that would have the speed knob on was run all the way in. what does that mean? All the way open or fastest? Also the knob on the left seems to be for low speed. Each knob has 1,2,3,4 locations in a 360 orientation. The only knob inside that has levers to move shafts is the slow speed knob. I have the knob , but it is stripped out. I do not have the knob for the middle ( high speed shaft)
Basically when I turn the shaft on the far left (slow speed knob )it only turns 1/8 way around, moving the shaft only a very little. It does not look like it was supposed to function like this originally. Please help me understand how to set everything to start it. After running it for about 20 min on a lake. I started playing with the high speed shaft and the carb. and now I can not get it started to save my life. The hand throttle has no writing on it. I am guessing that setting it in the middle it start location. I am trying to figure out what I need to do to get it started. I can take pics so you can see what has been done. It has new fuel lines and new plugs. I do not know the gap for plugs. It is getting enough fuel and I have used starting spray in the plug port to help. It will not start. I have adjusted the shaft that connects to the slow speed knob all the way in to all the way out, pulling the cord in all the different positions. I now do not have any idea where it need to be. I think it controls lean or rich mixture. If Pics would help I can send. Anything you can tell me would be great. |
Jerry E Deckard
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Username: weisit1
Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2009
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I have 1961 to 1963 Montgomery Ward 5HP Seaking. Anybody know where I can find the thermostat, and I'm assuming there is one on this motor. Manual said it was at top rear of powerhead under its own little cover, but I don't see it?!? The impeller isn't working for some reason, and I was told to check the thermostat 1st. Also is the impeller in the upper gear housing above the cavitation plate? The model # GG18732B, serial # 36X875236. Manufacturer-GALE. Sure would like a repair manual for same. I do have the owners manual. I have rechecked the model# too, the closest number I've found is the GG18736, but my number is definately GG18732B, checked and double-checked. |
Jerry E Deckard
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Username: weisit1
Post Number: 2
Registered: 06-2009
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Do these little Mont/ward 5hp seakings have a thermostat? Any other reason for the water cooling system not to work if the systems impeller is good, and no blockage? |
Jerry E Deckard
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Username: weisit1
Post Number: 3
Registered: 06-2009
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HEY---?!??? IS ANYBODY READING THESE POST, OR AM I WASTING MY TIME HOPING? OR--- how are these post answered, here or my e-address? I sure would appreciate anybodies help on the last two post above. THANK YOU! |
william g moore jr
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Username: william_m
Post Number: 273
Registered: 05-2009
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A new post starts at the opening page under "start a new discussion" And it's the 4th of july week end. There is only people with car trouble looking at forumns right now.
There are several ways to get an answer to you questions. Most likely, you can read it both on your computer as an e-mail, and by searching out your question on the forumn it's self. |
Robert Merrow
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Username: moorish127
Post Number: 5
Registered: 06-2009
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Hi Graham, still having problems,
getting good spark and the carb seems to be functiong well, but it just won't start. It dosen't appear to be getting any fuel to the combustion chamber. I check the reeds and they looked ok to me, but I'm really not sure what I should be looking for. The reeds are made of material simaliar to thin shim stock.
Also Graham did you get a chance to find a manual.
Here a are the numbers again;
model XTV 50535
serial 1613504
type K350 6106A
Thank's again I really appreciate it.
Take Care Bob |
Robert Merrow
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Username: moorish127
Post Number: 6
Registered: 06-2009
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Will ever get it right, I'm getting old.
I messed up the numbers again on that 3.5 hp sea king. The type no. is K530 (not K350).
Can't find reeds for it.
Thank's & Take Care Bob |
Michael Hebert
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Username: abearzz
Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 05:32 pm: |
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Can somebody tell me how i need to set the hi and low speed jet knobs on my ward/ seaking (gg9002c)?
It has a choke and two knobs vertical in the center....small knob above large knob...
Thanks in advance...
Also, where is the best place to locate operators mannual? |
Barry Nark
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Username: nark09
Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2009
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Hey I got sea king 5 35GG 9014A (1953?) Paid $100 for it, didnt run. Put 2 plugs in it and adj. the pionts to 18 thou.? It ran but no Water. Took it apart, made new gaskets put it back together, wont start. Kid fessed up to turning mixter screw. How far out from seat should it be? Thanks |
Matt Schuessler
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Username: speedsailor
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2009
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Well I just joined the family too. My Sea King Five is model GG18732A and serial 26X838214. I see from reading above it must be made by Gale in 1962. I'm looking for a parts/service manual. The Johnson/Evinrude website refers customers to www.kencook.com for archived outboard manuals. Unfortunately, Ken Cook doesn't list my exact model number. It seems the mystery digit it the '2' in the model number GG18732A. They don't have a listing for this.
In any case, this is a father-son project motor (and accompanying Sea King 14 aluminum boat). I see there are some very knowledgeable folks here so I welcome some direction. I'm starting cold. Just picked it up yesterday. Guy who sold it said the motor has run fine for years, but wouldn't start this season. I want to check all the basics: clean the carb, fuel filter, plugs, etc. If anyone has a "common sense starting point" outboard checklist to ensure best outcome for an otherwise unknown motor, please speak up. |
Curt Jensen
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Username: mnobfan
Post Number: 60
Registered: 01-2007
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Simple compression test - do you feel resistance when you turn the motor over by hand and hear a little whoomp when the pressure releases? Some like to use a gauge for readings. Can't turn it over at all - either walk away or be prepared to tear it down and rebuild. Next is spark - bright blue spark able to jump 1/4" gap is great. No spark - time to pull the flywheel and check coils and points. If coils are cracked they need to be replaced. Try cleaning and resetting the points unless the end riding on the cam is badly worn or they don't spring back when pulled open then replace. Once you have spark then go to fuel. Clean the carb and put in a kit. Check the oil in the lower unit for water. If you pull the drain plug and something other than oil comes out it is time to replace the seals in the unit. Drop the lower unit and check the condition of the water pump impeller. Might as well just replace it as long as you have it off. Take it out to the lake for final adjustments to the carb and enjoy it. |
