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Randall B
Visitor
| | Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 09:39 pm: | 
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Just bought a boat with a kicker motor that the guy said was a chrysler. The model serial plate says Wards, Seaking 15 is on the Cowl? Which is right? are they all right?
Model number is listed as VWB 52122
The serial Number is 58X 3319
It is running pretty rough right now but the gas mix was looking way too heavy. I am thinking it needs to be 50:1 I am guessing the year as late 70's to the early 80's? Any advice appreciated as to Where to find parts manuals etc.... Heck even to just know what it is? |
Graham Lamb
Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 81
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 09:05 pm: |
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Both are right - Wards/Chrysler is all the same, just a different marketing name. I'll dig a bit for you and see if I can find a year to go with your model/serial numbers.... |
Graham Lamb
Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 82
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 09:08 pm: |
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One more note to add, Chrysler build these between 74 - 78 for Montgomery Wards. Earlier versions were built by Clinton engines. So I'm digging in "two different holes" for find which model you have... |
Randall Breeding
New member
Username: randall_b
Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 09:09 pm: |
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Thanks so much.
had a local mechanic tell me it was made by US marine in 84? I have never heard of US marine?
I ran a half a tank of gas mixed with quickleen through it in a tank in my garage. seemed to improve things a bit.
Went fishing this weekend and it failed to start out on the lake. |
Graham Lamb
Advanced Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 123
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 07:31 am: |
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U.S. Marine was a division of the Brunswick Corporation. Aside from making pool tables they own a whole pile of Marine brand names including Mercury and Sea Ray to name just a couple. You will run accross a number of controls, gauges etc bearing the name U.S. Marine and were used with a very wide spectrum of products. |
Randall Breeding
New member
Username: randall_b
Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 10:54 am: |
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does this mean i can get service info through Mercury ? |
Graham Lamb
Advanced Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 159
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 11:33 am: |
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No - Mercury and Chrysler never really had any kind working relationship. The budget line of FORCE motors (From Old Recycled Chrysler Engines)  built by, and now orphaned and unsupported by Merc are a prime example. There are quite a number of SeaKing motors still out there, with alot of enthusiasts. Your best bet for support/information may be to do a web search for such a group and get connected with them. My interest in these type of old outboards stops with compiling model/serial lists to assist in identification... |
Phil Dixon
Member
Username: ped
Post Number: 7
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:39 am: |
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Your motor is acually a 1985, made by U.S.Marine |
Mark Haag
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 12:17 pm: |
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I have a Sea King 50 hp outboard with serial #10537
and model # VWB 19092. I would like to know the
yr. and make of this motor and where I might be able
to find parts, manuels and any other history. Thank you. |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 2697
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 08:55 pm: |
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Mark, that is a 1964, twin cylinder, 50 horse built by Chrysler for Montgomery Wards and sold under their brand name.
Despite it being dressed as a "Sea King", it is very much a Chrysler. Any Chrysler manual covering that model year will work for that motor.
As to parts - Chrysler is long gone, parts are getting scarce. Depending what you need, Andrew who runs this site carries aftermarket parts for some applications. Otherwise, you need to do websearches.
I do have a couple of sources for Chrysler parts, depending what you may be after.... |
j martin
Visitor
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 10:50 am: |
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I have a 15hp Montgomerey Ward Sea King with a broken prop. The model # is vwb521191. The seriel # is 48x32565. Would like to know the year of motor and where to find a used or new prop. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 2952
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 06:27 pm: |
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It looks like you have an extra digit in the model number.
The VWB 52119 (either blank (79) or followed by an A thru E - A=80, B=81 etc) were 15 horse motors built by Chrylser between 1979 and up until 1984 (when Crysler was bought out by Bayliner).
So essentially you have a 15 horse Chrysler. They have no dealer support at all anymore so for a prop you will have to look to aftermarket companies (such as Michigan Wheel sold at most marine places like WestMarine etc) or watch Ebay for someone selling a good used one... |
JMartin
Visitor
| | Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 10:26 pm: |
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Thanks for the info this gets me heading in the
right direction. Great website. Thanks again. |
brandon armstrong
Visitor
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 09:29 pm: |
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i have a 15 horse mongomery ward sea king mod # vwb52115 ser# 57x20980 trying to find out what year the motor is and if anybody knows where i may be able to get a repair manual i bought it and it was all tore apart. would like to know if i could maybe put an electric start on it also |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 3207
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 02:51 am: |
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Brandon, what you have there is a 1975 Chrysler, so a Seloc's manual covering that time frame/hp will work well for you.
Parts may be a little more difficult to come by for converting to electric start. Since Chrysler is long out of business you will have to first determine what you need and then watch recyclers/ebay and the like.... |
brandon armstrong
Visitor
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 05:33 pm: |
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thank you is there anyone that might be able to work on it any dealers maybe i live in illinois
not sure what do do |
Steve Jones
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 06:08 pm: |
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I have a Chrysler SeaKing 15 hp motor. Can anyone tell me the oil/fuel mixture rate for this motor? |
wade miner
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 07:37 pm: |
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I just bought a 15 hp montgomery ward.
MOD: VWB 52115, S/N: 57X20501
Can anyone tell me the year and what parts/repair manuals cover this?
Also wondering what the correct fuel/oil mixture is? |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 3290
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 08:00 pm: |
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Wade you have a 1975 Chrysler built for Wards. Any aftermarket maint manual for Chryslers of that vintage will work fine.
Both you and Steve can mix at 50:1 with regular unleaded gas and TCW-3 rated Marine 2 cycle oil.
You may want to replace the gas hoses under the hood if they are original - modern gas with alcohol/ethanol/methanol blends doesn't agree with the rubber in the older hoses - a couple bucks worth of gas line from any auto parts place can save you alot of headaches... |
wade miner
Visitor
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 04:50 am: |
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Thanks for the information. Now I'll see if I can make it to the water this weekend! |
Gary Elser
New member
Username: truckerman
Post Number: 3
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 12:35 pm: |
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I need a blow apart of a 15hp Chrysler motor. I am trying to figure out how to remove the shaft to replace the water pump impeller. Or can someone tell me what I have to take loose to get the shaft out? |
Al P
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 02:07 am: |
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Hi everyone,I'm trying to find a cowl cover for my 1981 Montgomery ward 15hp chrysler sea king and also motor tiller control.Does anyone have any idea where i can get these parts? Thanks guys..... |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 3326
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 08:32 am: |
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Al, try www.twincityoutboards.com - get ahold of them there. They are a little pricey as far as recylers go, but the literally have "everything"... |
Al P
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 04:06 pm: |
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Graham,Thanks for information.} |
Chad Sanders
Visitor
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 03:10 pm: |
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hello, I am needing assistance, I have a late model Sea King made by Montgomery Wards that somewhere in the Late 60's. This is my first outboard motor and need help. What is the gas/oil mixture do I need to use in a 6gallon gas tank. My outboard is a 12.o hp the Model # is GG8971A serial # 75X692611 if someone could help me I would appreciate it tremendously |
Gary Elser
Member
Username: truckerman
Post Number: 4
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 06:34 pm: |
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I am looking for a recoil mechanism for a 15hp Chrysler. The one that was on the motor had been taken off befor I got it. Please contact me a my email. |
