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Steve Elkins
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 10:20 pm: | 
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Hi everyone. I have what I believe to be an Elgin outboard motor. On the serial number plate it says Sears Roebuck & company. The serial # is 761.1853
I was wondering about what year this engine is and does anyone have any links to online manuals? I'm also looking for the piece that covers the carb. Otherwise seems to run good. |
Steve Elkins
Visitor
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 10:22 pm: |
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I think is 7 or 7.5 hp |
Steve Elkins
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:52 am: |
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Found the year. Its a 1953 Elgin 2 cylinder. Any ideas on gas/oil mix? 30-1? |
bassman
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 01:50 pm: |
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Did you find a gas/oil mixture? I have what i believe is a 1956 7.5 Elgin and can't find the mixture ratio information anywhere. Judging by your serial #, i also believe yours is a 1953 7.5. Mine is 571.5970. Please update if you find a ratio. I will too. |
Steve Elkins
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 01:30 pm: |
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I do have the correct mix at home..will update tonight. |
Howtheybitin
Visitor
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 11:48 am: |
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I have a 1957 7.5 Elgin. I am in need of a new impeller for it. Any ideas where I might find one? |
Brent Knotts
Visitor
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 10:30 pm: |
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I have a 1977 johnson 35hp outboard motor..and it runs good till you gas it and it acts like it is starving for gas...i put a new fuel pump on it and it still does the same thing.......i don't know what to do any answers????? |
Joel A. Toms
New member
Username: jbobb205
Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 08:23 am: |
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im seeking service manual for a elgin 2 1/2 hp model no. 571.58401 ser no. 401-38487 this motor was manufactured by west bend some where between 1946 and 1854 its water cooled any info appreciated thanks toms.j@sbcglobal.net |
Joel A. Toms
New member
Username: jbobb205
Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 08:26 am: |
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oops prvious post had incorrect yr 1946 to 1954 |
Norman Labrecque
New member
Username: njl4
Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 12:51 pm: |
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I have just acquired a 40 HP Elgin Outboard Motor manufactured by Sears Roebuck.
I do not know it's serial number. Is anyone able to advise what mixture of oil / fuel is required to run this.
Also, is there a source of manuals for same ?
Thank you. |
Dean Rodgers
Visitor
| | Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 12:19 am: |
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I have just aquired a elgin motor and know little about it so any information would be great. mod. number 571.58561 ser. number561.19809 Information such as year of make horse power and fuel mixture. If any information is given it would be greatly appreciated! |
Dave Walters
Visitor
| | Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 05:47 pm: |
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Fuel/oil mixture is 16:1 for the old Elgins. I have a 7.5 and need an idle screw and retining nut for my tillotson md109a carb. Or if possible replace the carb if someone has one. The # on mine is C571.597561. Can't find any info on this one. Most info can be found at the Elgin web site or the Antique Motorboat website. Parts are hard to find but try www.laingsoutboards.com for difficult to find parts. |
Bruce Elander
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 05:04 pm: |
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I have a 12hp 1957 elgin. I'm looking for a (11 tooth) pinion gear for the pull start. Anyone have any ideas where I might find one? Thanks |
Greg Marchand
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 04:16 pm: |
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looking for an elgin water pump impeller for a 7.5hp 1954 model number 571.58772 serial no. 772 22614 thanks, Greg |
Brian Watkiins
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 09:55 pm: |
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HI, I have a old elgin out board i just got.It is a 7.5 horse and the serial numbers are 761.4940 does anyone have any information on what year it is,what is the gas mix and is it water cooled or not. Thanks for the help Brian! |
John Owens
Visitor
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 12:20 pm: |
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Hi I have an Elgin outboard Model #571.58761 from Sears Roebuck is 16:1 gas ratio the proper ratio for this motor |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 1484
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 12:37 pm: |
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What a mess of posts - most times you will get better answers (or answers at all) by starting a new discussion.
John (last thread) wrt your Elgin outboard, which is a 1953, twin, 7.5 built by Westbend.
Many of these small engines ran at either 24:1 or 16:1 (16:1 most notably on the Tecumseh built engines).
If the original sticker stating the mix is gone running at 16:1 won't hurt. If you find that your plugs get overly oil fouled, switch to 24:1 and keep an eye on them.
You should mix regular unleaded with 2 cycle engine oil (such as used with chainsaws/lawnmowers) - NOT Marine 2 cycle oil...
Others here should repost under "new discussion" if your questions go unanswered.
Additionally, a good source for manuals and some parts on these old/discontinued outboards is www.discount-marine-parts.com |
Joe Downing
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, September 03, 2007 - 02:54 pm: |
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I have two Elgin 12 Hp outboards sn61601210 on one. both are in running condition. please contact me if you are interested. |
Tom Kargus
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 07:16 pm: |
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I was surfing the net looking for info on my 1947 Elgin Model 571.58301, 1.25 Hp outboard.
I found a website that stated most engines in that era use 1/2 to 3/4 pint of oil (TCW-3) per gallon.
It also stated that most would also use a Champion J11C spark plug. I don't know if this thread is active but I thought I would throw that out there. |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 1808
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 10:16 am: |
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Tom, most of these little engines will run fine at a mix of 24:1, but not with marine TCW3 oil.
The air-cooled motors should use regular 2 cycle oil (such as used with chainsaws/lawnmowers).
Some recommdations have come from Tecumseh, a prolific builder, that a mix of 16:1 also could be in order and in fact some motors even have a sticker on them with the 16:1 mix ratio.
Your model was built by West Bend, exclusively for Sears. Sorry, can't help you with a plug listing, I don't have recommedations for West Bend's in my pile of junk, however, the J11C is a common small engine plug, still very much available... |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 1809
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 10:17 am: |
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Sorry Tom, early in the morning for me - should have read 16:1 above, not 18:1.... |
bjmullins
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 04:11 pm: |
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To be clear, I think you should only use the TC chainsaw weedwhacker etc 2 stroke oil in the aircooled engines. Water cooled Elgins should use modern TCW-3 Marine 2 stroke oils.
http://www.elginoutboards.org/elgin1946to54.htm |
dogdays
Visitor
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 08:36 pm: |
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can anyone tell me gas mixture to the scott mccoullough outboard 1 or 2 hp made by sears tim |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 2903
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2008 - 09:38 am: |
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24:1 using regular unleaded gas (86 or 87 octane) and normal 2 cycle motor oil, such as used with lawnmowers or chainsaws - not TCW-3 rated Marine oil - it's too thin for air cooled motors... |
Wendy Highsmith
Visitor
| | Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 01:41 am: |
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In cleaning out my parents garage, I came across a Sears Elgin outboard motor - Model #571.58401 (manufactured around 1947-1951). Any ideas how much it's worth - and, what would you suggest is the best way to try and sell it? |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 4030
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 08:58 am: |
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Wendy you have your dates correct for sure. It's a little single cylinder 2.5 horse built for Sears by Westbend (who now produces kitchen appliances).
Value? Not much. There is literally thousands of these 1940/50/60-something little air cooled motors out there.
If it was in it's original box, never fired up etc etc it may be worth a few hundred bucks to a collector. As a used motor you would be lucky to get 50 bucks for it - and that's only if it's running.
Put it on Ebay and let the "market" determine what it is worth.
It's greatest value would be if you could use it yourself..... |
Wendy Highsmith
Visitor
| | Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 11:55 am: |
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Thanks for your prompt response. Now I have to decide. |
