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Scott D. Fippinger
New member Username: laddie26
Post Number: 1 Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 11:28 pm: |
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I recently purchased for almost nothing an eska 3.5 1703-C I believe its a 1971. I took the carburator apart, cleaned thouroughly, replaced some parts and now it starts and runs like a top. One problem, the propeller is always turning. There appears to be no neutral position. Is there a clutch in this model. I have a parts and operation manual but its for a variety of models and I am not that mechanically inclined. Please humor this idiot as I,m turning this little boat and motor over to my 12 & 14 year olds and want it working right. |
   
Wayne Rowlinson
Member Username: winman99
Post Number: 15 Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 11:48 pm: |
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No, this motor does not have a clutch. It's direct drive only. I have several Eska's/Sears Gamefishers and the smallest one I have with a Neutral clutch is a 7 HP. My 5 HP Eska's are direct drive as well. Just make sure the kids have the motors tightened down securely and let them experience good old 360 degree steering :-) |
   
Scott D. Fippinger
New member Username: laddie26
Post Number: 2 Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 07:26 am: |
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Thank you so much Wayne, we are getting ready to go to UP tomorrow and am very grateful for the information. Scott |
   
mike buteau
New member Username: bigtoe
Post Number: 1 Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 10:42 pm: |
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Hi, I just bought a eska 1703c and was wondering about the gas oil mixture also the lube (grease on the propellor gear box and does the motor have a water pump Thanks Mike B |
   
Wayne Rowlinson
Member Username: winman99
Post Number: 20 Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 11:23 pm: |
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The 1703C is a 3.5 Horsepower from 1971. 24:1 Fuel Mixture as per the service manual. SAE 90 outboard gear lubricant for the bottom end. The manual states that anything over a 3HP has an impeller to cool exhaust gases, which would include your 3.5. The engine itself is air cooled. Don't run it out of water or you could melt the impeller. As well, these motors will run hot with defective impellers, so it has to be functional. |
   
mike buteau
New member Username: bigtoe
Post Number: 2 Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 11:55 pm: |
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wow 24to 1 Hope the impeller is working, dont know how to check it thank you very much for the info. |
   
Wayne Rowlinson
Member Username: winman99
Post Number: 21 Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 12:38 am: |
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I don't personally own a 3.5, so am not 100% sure, but there is likely an exhaust relief hole (or holes) on the bottom end that is above the water line. You can usually see a bit of water spray coming out along with the exhaust. Maybe somebody who personally owns one of these motors can answer this question better though. Good luck. |
   
scott puffer
Member Username: brim_buster
Post Number: 56 Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 05:27 am: |
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wayne is right and the amount of water isnt much. it comes out the exhaust and 2 little holes above the water line. it keeps the bottom end cool. |
   
mike buteau
New member Username: bigtoe
Post Number: 3 Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 10:11 am: |
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thanks for the info, one more question(Im full of them)How much grease in the bottom end??? |
   
Wayne Rowlinson
Member Username: winman99
Post Number: 24 Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 10:29 am: |
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Assuming your seals are still fine in the bottom end, you will fill it with SAE 90 outboard gear oil. Completely drain the old oil out and look for contamination. If it looks milky you have water getting in and need to replace the seals. You will have two screws. On that motor there is one lower on the gear housing below the rounded area, and another on the other side above the rounded area. Fill from the bottom until oil comes out the top. Put the top screw in, and quickly put the bottom screw in. |
   
mike buteau
Member Username: bigtoe
Post Number: 4 Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 01:28 pm: |
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thanks Wayne I appreciate the help. |
   
Joe Swope
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 03:27 pm: |
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I have a 3.5hp labeled as a J C Penney. The mechanic is telling me it needs a new carb. Any chance of finding a carb for this? Thanks. |
   
scott puffer
Member Username: brim_buster
Post Number: 72 Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 08:07 am: |
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joe try looking for the parts to rebuild it instead of looking for a new carb. you will probally have better luck. try ebay |
   
mike buteau
Member Username: bigtoe
Post Number: 5 Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 09:22 am: |
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check this out http://item.express.ebay.com/Vehicle-Parts-Accessories_Boat-Parts-Accessories-Ge ar__GAMEFISHER-ted-williams-eska-carb-rebuild-or-exchange_W0QQitemZ360052022243Q QihZ023QQddnZVehicleQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadnZBoatQ20PartsQ2cQ20Accessor iesQ20Q26Q20GearQQptdiZ2823QQddiZ1168QQcmdZExpressItem |
   
Joe Swope
Visitor
| | Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 10:25 am: |
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I appreciate the responses. Is JC Penney the same as Eska, for parts purposes? Another post said the powerheads were manufactured by Tecumseh. I found this carb kit through Brix Enterprises, the parts look similar to mine, but I can't tell for certain. The ebay item was no longer available. http://home.earthlink.net/~brixent/eskaprop.htm |
   
scott puffer
Member Username: brim_buster
Post Number: 74 Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 09:07 am: |
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eska made motors for a number of different companies and tecumseh was one of the power heads they used. |
   
Scott D. Fippinger
New member Username: laddie26
Post Number: 3 Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 09:23 am: |
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Is anyone interested in purchasing my 1971 Eska 1703 C? It runs good, has a completely new carburator. The reason for selling is my sons simply don't have the strenghth to pull start. If interested reply to this post with phone number etc. $150.00 would break even for me scott |
   
Joe Swope
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:36 pm: |
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Thanks. I'll try ordering the carb kit from Brix and see what happens with it. |
   
Peter Meyer
Member Username: boatbeginer
Post Number: 8 Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 09:57 am: |
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Wayne finally got My eska 7.5. I starts fine and goes in gear fine. At full throttle it bogs down and revs up and down. Is that gas or carb? Air seams fine. One other ? is I have small leak in bottom seal by propeller. Is that a major issue or not? If anyone has input it is greatly appreciated. |
   
Wayne Rowlinson
Advanced Member Username: winman99
Post Number: 221 Registered: 07-2006

| | Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 12:03 am: |
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Chances are that the revving up and down is something to do with the carb. I don't really remember your situation, sorry. Make sure you have the proper fuel mixture and the motor is spitting some water. As for the leak in the bottom end, I don't recommend you keep running it like that. Any water that gets in the bottom displaces the gear oil and allows things to wear out quicker than necessary. If there is water in the bottom and it freezes, it will crack the housing. Even worse, you are leaking oil into the water where you are trying to catch your fish. |
   
Peter Meyer
Member Username: boatbeginer
Post Number: 9 Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Friday, May 29, 2009 - 09:22 am: |
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Hello everyone. I was wondering If anyone could give some advice. I found a 7.5 johnson AD-10. I guess its a 56. The owner says it runs but doesn't pump water. Is this worth $50 and does it have a bad water pump. I haven't found too much info on this motor. I have a 3hp gamefisher, 7hp eska Will this be much better or not really worth it. |
   
william g moore jr
Member Username: william_m
Post Number: 11 Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 05:05 pm: |
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Go for the johnson. Great little twin. Do compression test first. You will have so much fun with that little johnson compared to sitting next to a lawnmower all day. |