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7 HP Montgomery Ward (Clinton)

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Travis Hardwick
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

i just picked up this engine. M/N: K700 2107A S/N: 650 8010 Type: 6027370R. Everything works except the plastic gears that are on the tiller handle are stripped out. Any idea where I could find replacements. I seen in a couple of posts that Johnson/Evinrude parts may be able to be used but I'm not sure if they use the same style gears. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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richard naehr
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I have a wards sea king 7 hp,is the outboard air cooled?,and what is the oil fuel mix?the outboard started right up i used a 50 to 1 mix and onlr ran the motor for 3 minutes,i want to make sure i use the proper mix and needed to know do i use 2 cycle lawnmower oil to mix.thank you for your asssistance.richard
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scott puffer
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Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

50:1
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Graham Lamb
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Posted on Monday, January 28, 2008 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Travis, you could try www.twincityoutboards.com - a little expensive but have parts for almost every outboard produced.

Richard. If you are positive it's a 7 horse (and not a 7.5), then it is a 1969 model built by Eska (the only model year where a 7 was produced for Wards by any mfg). If that's the case it is an air-cooled engine (powerhead built by Tecumseh). You should be mixing at 24:1 using regular 2 cycle engine oil (lawnmower/chainsaw), not marine oil. It will run nice on 50:1 until you eventually weld the piston....
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scott puffer
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Posted on Monday, January 28, 2008 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

i have sea king pdf files for carbs and complete tear down if you would like me to email them to you
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Travis Hardwick
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Yes, please send them to me. I already replaced the gears. I ordered the gears from McMaster Carr and they worked. But I would like to have a diagram in case something else is wrong. my email. the_trav_man@hotmail.com
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richard naehr
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Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

is it possible to hook up a temperature gauge to a 1968 33hp sea horse johnson,if it is ,how do you do it,once i get the water carculating properly,i want to have a gauge to look at ,to make sure it is ok,lastly what should the proper temperature be?pleas ereply
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Fred Harris
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Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2008 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Travis,
Please send me the sea king pdf files.
fm2gharris@aol.com

Thanks in Advance!
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Fred Harris
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Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Scott,
Please send me the sea king pdf files.
fm2gharris@aol.com

Thanks in Advance!
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Fred Harris
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I have a brand new 1969 Wards-Clinton K700.
The manual says to use leaded gasoline. Does the 24:1 with regular 2-cycle oil make up for the unleaded gas? During the break-in period, it's calling for adding 1/2 pint of marine oil to the gas for the first 5 hours. Any help with this would be appreciated. Thanks in Advance!!!
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Brian A.Adams
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Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I all so have a 7hp Sea King outboard. Looking at the different posts I'm confused on which fuel mix to use. Is it 50:1 or 24:1 or some thing else? This was given to me and I don't even know the last time it ran.}
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Graham Lamb
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Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Fred, called for Leaded gas because the other option at the time was "white marine gas". You can run unleaded but you may want to change the fuel lines on the motor for 2 reasons. First, after sitting this long they may have dry rotted - secondly, the ethanol in the fuel now eats the old rubber which was not designed to handle it.

And yes, during the break in you run "more" oil to allow all the parts to settle in properly. So follow your instructions. Use regular two cycle motor oil (such as used for lawnmowers/chainsaws) NOT marine rated TCW-3 (or any of the TCW's) which are designed to burn up at lower temps in water cooled motors....


Brian, it may seem confusing because Sea King was built by a number of different companies over the years - so depending on the actual mfg and year it was built, plus whether it was air-cooled or water-cooled will affect what oil you run and at what ratio.

Post you model number and can give you answer...
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Frank Perras
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Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Graham I have been reviewing some of the posts here about fuel mixture for the 7.5 Sea King by Clinton and it looks like a 24:1 mixture but on my motor housing cover for the 7.5 it is printed 3 oz of gas per gallon 3 per gallon is a 50:1 ratio correct? but if this creates a problem then I would rather run it rich on 24:1 than sieze metal parts Pleas advise and thanks
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Brian A.Adams
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Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Thanks for the info Graham, The engine is a Montgomery Wards built by Clinton Motors and the model # is k7002107 A. Hope this helps.
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richard naehr
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Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

what is the fuel mix for a 1988 mariner 50 hp 3 cylinder?
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Graham Lamb
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Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

50:1
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richard naehr
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Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

i have a 1988 50 hp mariner,is this made by yamaha? also theiris a prong plug tyhat comes from the electric connection to the motor,what does that go to ,a tach?,also their is a 5 or 6 prong plug that comes off the throttlr box ,what is that for? the motor runs just fine,i would like to know thank you richard
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richard naehr
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Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

i have a 1988 50hp mercury mariner,replace the selenoid,while tracing thew problem i took the control box apart,now it rund ,go's ingear and idles,but it does not accelerate how do i fix?
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Tracy Huffman
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Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I am really confused about what fuel mix to use.
I have a Ward Sea King that says 7 on the cap so I am assuming that it is 7hp but it is mfg by Clinton and I saw a post that the only mfg co that made a 7hp for Ward was Eska? It is model K700 1106A, s/n 443328, type 60 27207R. Please help me figure this out.
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Graham Lamb
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Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Tracy, sorry to confuse you, I did post that a number of posts back - my fault, missed a listing for the single model year (1973) that Wards sold a 7 horse Clinton model K700.

The K700 is actually the Clinton model number.

My Clinton manual for that model states to mix 3 ounces of oil to 1 gallon of gas. My math has never been the greatest but that sounds like about 40:1 (42.6:1 exactly)
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Tracy Huffman
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Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Thanks Graham that helps a lot and I really appreciate it. I hope you don't mind answering two more question for me. Do you know what the gap on the spark plug should be and do you know if this engine is air cooled or water cooled?

Thanks Again
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Graham Lamb
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Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Tracy, this is an air cooled engine, so you should use regular 2 cycle motor oil such as used with lawnmowers - Marine oil is designed to burn up at the lower temperatures associated with water cooling and can cause problems for you.

The spark plug gap should be .025" and the points gap is .020"
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Tracy Huffman
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Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Thanks Graham, I appreciate the answer.
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Steve Martin
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Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Gentlemen, I have purchased a Wards Sea King 7HP K700 1106A. Not sure of the year. The problem I have is gas emmiting from a tiny hole under the air/fuel mixture screw. I was told it was a float problem. So I ordered a rebuild kit and replaced the main seat for the float. I have the float adjusted as high as I can and it still seams to be getting to much fuel. I am stumped. The engine runs perfect if you remove the vacuume tube from the impulse fuel pump and the gas stops squirting out of that hole. Any ideas would be appreciated.

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