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riboater
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Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Hi I just got this outboard and was looking for any info anyone might have. The MODEL# 669013A
SERIAL# 55x576892
Is it a 66' I got it going for about 45 sec and then wore out my arm.
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riboater
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Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

No sorry its Model GG9013A
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tom f.
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Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 06:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

i heard parts from johnson of same year and hp. will work. i have one too 5hp sea king 61
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RH Nelson
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Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

got an OLD 7 1/2 hp Sea King, got it running, but need info on lubrication, etc. Any ideas on where to go for parts? MWards doesn't handle any more. Thanks
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Andrew Menkart
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Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

RH,

Do you have the model number? Some of the MW Sea King motors were made by GALE and certain parts for those motors are available from Johnson/Evinrude dealers or aftermarket suppliers.

Some Sea King motors were made by Chrysler.

You should post the model number so someone can detirmine what motor you have.
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Robert Nowlin
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Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I have a 5hp Montgomery Wards/Sea King and I am trying to set my points. Tried to set them but don't know if I am doing it right. Do you set them in the starting position or the stop position? Model #94gg9014a anybody with a suggestion?
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Matt Gormley
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Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Sorry can't help you I can't get my going for more than 10sec. I have teeth missing I think. It skips alot while tryin to start. Any ideas anyone?
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Robert Nowlin
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Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

My motor runs am to checking to see if my points are gapped right.
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Matt Gormley
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Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

It says "set points to ___" I'd have to look again. What are points, the gap on the plugs?
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Robert Nowlin
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Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Points are set at .020" and the spark plug gap is .030
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Matt Gormley
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Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Thanks
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Robert Nowlin
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Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I have completely overhauled with new fuel lines, filters, screens, rebuilt the carb, new spark plugs, and I am using 24:1 fuel. The motor cranks on the fisrt pull but once I adjust the speed knob the motor speeds up and slows down and so on I am aslo trying to adjust the carb but nothing happens. Regapped the points, also sparyed engine tuner waited overnight restarted engine and basicly ran the same but had moments were it ran fine, but it stills surges. To me it sounds like I have been getting bad gas lately. I am using regular gas only. Also been using Lucas 2-cycle oil tcw3 and stabil in the gas. Ran a compression check on the motor and the top spark plug hole had 80 and the bottom had 75 I don't know much about outboard motor sa are these numbers ok for a 1949 montgomery wards/sea king(94gg9014a). Or do you think that I should tare the engine down and but new rings? Or just trash the motor?
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corym0284
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Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I have a 1961 Sea King 5hp and I have been looking all over for carburator parts. I just found a lawn mower service shop that has the parts. My cousin is the parts guy there and says Lawn Boy manufactured these motors for OMC. Thought it might help someone. Thanks.
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scott barnett
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Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I have a old sea king 5hp runs great, but waterpump bad, i need help on finding parts and finding out what year it is model#gg18736b serial# 16x821994 thanks
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Andrew Menkart
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Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

GG-18736B is a 5HP from 1961 made by GALE MANUFACTURED PRODUCTS.

I believe most of the parts will be the same as for a Johnson/Evinrude of the same year... but it looks like the Johnson/Evinrude models that year were 5.5HP not 5HP. I don't know if a 1961 5.5 J/E was the same as a 5HP GALE. Maybe someone else here knows...

For waterpump parts see waterpump application guide.
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scott barnett
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

i took the 4 bolts out of the bottom foot to get to the water pump,it comes down about 1 inch and stops ,what do i do to get it the rest of the way off please help, thank you
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ron boudreau
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Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Is the sea king Montgomery Ward Model 94GG9014A
a 4 cycle or a 2 cycle? it's from the 50's
ron
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ron boudreau
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

i just bought a montgomnery ward 5 hp Model 94GG9014A motor ad they guy i bought it from said he had it running for 20 minutes and everything was a ok. The lean/prime dial was bent so i unscrewed to fix and and when screwing it in it stops and i dont know have times it suppose to be unscrewed to set the knob any guesses
Ron
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Lou Ondracek
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Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I have a Sea King 5hp, I believe is a 1968. The model # is GG18801A. Anyone know who made this motor? Lou
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Todd Lerum
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Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I have a Sea King five with a model number GG9001C Can any one tell me what year it was made and who made it?
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Graham Lamb
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Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Todd, should have started a new discussion - you could have got lost here :-)

You have a 1956, twin cylinder, made for Montgomery Wards by Gale.

Gale was a division of OMC (Johnson/Evinrude) until they scrapped the line.

The Gale model (OMC sales) of this motor would have been a Buccanner 5S12B.
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Dennis Luoma
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Does anyone know is my Sea King GG18736B models water cooled or air cooled. Where is the water pump, how does the water exit the engine? There is exhaust coming from the exhaust port, is water to come out the same port? I don't want to burn it out. Thank you. Does anyone know where I can obtain an owners manual?
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Ray Doddridge
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Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I have a sea king mdl J2001106a anyone know the gas oil mixture? 5 hp
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scott puffer
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Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 06:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

why do we have 60 post on one thread???????
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Mark Halvorsen
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I just picked up a 5hp montgomery ward outboard. model #35GG-9015A. serial #479905. Can anybody tell me the year and manufacturer. I wanted to go through it before I tried starting it. Need some pointers as this is my lst outboard. Any help would be appreciated. Also where I might pick up a owners manual.
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Graham Lamb
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Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

That's a 1953 model, twin cylinder, 5 horse built by Gale (OMC built). The equavalent Gale model would have been the Buccaneer model 5D10.

You might find an owners manual at www.discount-marine-parts.com - parts may be difficult to come by - OMC's Gale line was built mostly for discount/hardware stores who branded them under their various store names, but it did share a fair number of parts with the Johnson's and Evinrudes in the same time period....
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Mark Halvorsen
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Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Graham, thanks for the info. Didn't realize there was two cylinders to the moter. I also have the same issue that Craig has with his 7 1/2 hp motor. An open throat to the carb.
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Bob Bredeweg
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Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I have Sea King 5 hp from MW around a 55. Having problem with gas leaking from the bowl. How does the cork float affect the flow of gas? Does anyone know how this is supposed to work?
Model # is G09001C
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J G. Long
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Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2008 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I have a 5Hp Sportfisher. It's a single cyl. air cooled model. I have two questions. First, I have looked all over the motor, housing and everywhere for a model number. The only number I can find is on a tag on the block.
T-643-05
6046345
Secondly, which may be related to first. The carb. needs a kit. Is there a way of getting carb. kits and parts without knowing the engine model number. Thanks John L.
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Carrie Russell
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Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2008 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I recently purchased a 5hp Sea King from Montgomery Wards. The motor does not work. Does anyone know the year and manufacturer? Where can I find a service manual for this motor?
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Carrie Russell
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Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2008 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I'm sorry, I'd like to add
my model #:45GG9014A
my Serial #:557083
Thank you.
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Graham Lamb
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Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Carrie, that is a 1954 Gale, built by OMC - so it did share alot of parts with Johnson/Evinrude during the same period.

A running version of that motor can be obtained in the used market for under 100 bucks, so keep that in mind before you spend alot on it.

The boys at www.discount-marine-parts.com may be able to help you out with a manual....
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Graham Lamb
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Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Sorry John, almost missed you there. Well, you just happen to be in luck.

The Sportfisher models were only built in 1970 and 71.

The motor itself was built by Eska for Montgomery Wards (not good since both are out of business) - But...

Tecumseh built all the powerheads for Eska, so just about any small engine place can help you out with engine parts - the motor itself was also used on thousands of 5 horse lawnmowers out there...

The carb kit you want is part number DI-52030. For other engine parts, the Tecumseh motor which corresponds to your power head is either TEC-643-05A (or B) - both will work...
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John G. Long
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Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Graham, Thank you for the information on my 5hp. John
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Eddie Neal
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Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I recently acquired and Montgomery ward Sea King 5hp outboard and was wondering what year it is.
Here is the Model number and serial number:
Model#: GG18736D
Serial#: 26x834010
Any information is greatly appreciated!
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Wayne Rowlinson
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

It's a 1962 5 Horsepower.
I believe OMC's Gale division was still making Sea King's at this time, and most parts were interchangeable with Johnson's and Evinrudes.
I also believe the fuel/oil ratio was still 24:1.
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Wayne Rowlinson
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Sorry for the double post, but to avoid confusion, my response was to Eddie Neal.
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Graham Lamb
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 02:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

You are correct Wayne - the GG indicates it was built by Gale, and the 24:1 is correct as well :-)
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Eddie Neal
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Thanks guys!
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Larry Davis
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Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Brand new user here, I need some help identifing the year, maker and oil to gas mix for an old sea king motor. Model number GG8977A serial number 85x717828
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Graham Lamb
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Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 02:10 am: