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Lee Chastain
Visitor
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 03:09 pm: | 
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I just picked up a 5 HP Ted Williams, air cooled outboard & I need to get a few parts for it.
I looked on Discount Marine Parts for it & couldn't find any info on it.
Heres what I have for ID.
Ted Williams T643 - 19B Tecumseh 7180017
any info would help out.
Thanks Lee |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 2249
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 01:19 am: |
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Lee, that is a 1974 model built by Eska for Sears. The model number is 217.59680
A carb kit is available from most small engine places that carry Tecumseh parts, ditto other ignition parts although I don't have part numbers for them.
This motor should be treated more like a lawnmower than an outboard. Use 2 cycle oil (for lawnmowers/chainsaws etc) instead of Marine 2 cycle oil, mixed at 24:1 with regular unleaded gas.... |
Lee Chastain
New member
Username: bps
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 02:16 am: |
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Thanks Graham,
The one part I need for it will propably be the hardest to find, the gas cap has a primer bulb in it, & its torn & fuel leaks when you tilt the motor. So thats first on the list.
24:1 mix might help it run smoother, the guy I bought it from told me he ran 40:1 in it. |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 2254
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 01:21 am: |
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Lee, parts for your motor may still be available from Sears. The Sears part number for that cap is 36123.
You can go to www3.sears.com and put in the model number of your motor (217.59680) and get parts listings and diagrams..... |
Lee Chastain
New member
Username: bps
Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 02:44 am: |
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I called sears today to try & order what I need & they no longer offer parts for my motor.
So I'm going through any Tecumseh dealer I can find, & talking to all the small engine shops in my area. Lee |
Charlie Goodman
Visitor
| | Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 04:41 pm: |
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I am in the "same boat" as Lee. I am trying to replace the cap/primer on my fuel tank of an old Sears engine. (Mine is a 5hp "Gamefisher"). The engine has a quick disconnect fitting on the engine that won't match up with any of the readily available hoses/tank assemblies. Any suggested solutions? Replace the fuel intake fitting on the engine so I can use another set up? |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 2437
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 02:16 pm: |
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Charlie, you can change the connection fitting. Personally would go with an OMC hook-up. They are inexpensive and unlike other (Merc) their isn't a number of different versions out there for say the past 25 years or so.
For other parts you could try www.twincityoutboards.com - they aren't the cheapest place around but usually will have what you are after... |
scott stephens
Senior Member
Username: scott_s
Post Number: 1102
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 07:23 pm: |
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Graham, you must have one hell of a library, or a dedicated computer for all the stuff you come up with. amazing! I am in awe. S. |
CharlesGoodman
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 08:02 pm: |
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Graham, THANKS! Seems either the OMC or the FORCE fitting installed in the engine allows us to switch the whole fuel system over to something that is not outdated. If the "old" motor would not be "never used/started" I would just forget about it, but I want to see if it will start up. I do have the original manual and all the original tags still on the engine. It was won in a raffle many years ago  Thanks again! |
scott puffer
New member
Username: brim_buster
Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 07:50 pm: |
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ebay has all the parts you guys need cheap except for solid state ignition |
hector castillo
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 - 09:58 pm: |
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I just purchased a 1974 ted williams 5hp outboard. i want to know if the gas ratio 24:1 is better than 40:1? Also do you know if it has a water pump? |
Wayne Rowlinson
Advanced Member
Username: winman99
Post Number: 105
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 09:01 pm: |
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They went to 32:1 starting in 1974. Although the engine is air cooled, the lower end (exhaust housing) is cooled by a water pump. Believe it or not, the owners manual, AND the service manual states to use TCW oil (which means TCW-3 today). This is not the norm for an air cooled engine, but I have followed these instructions on my Eska/Gamefisher air cooled engines for years and have had good luck. |
ken hale
New member
Username: kenhale
Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 11:38 pm: |
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How do I check to see if the water pump is in good condition, and what other things should I check for? I have a T64319B 7179198 that has great compression, but no fire. I am pulling the flywheel in the morning. Any advice is appreciated. |
shawn watkins
New member
Username: idahohunter_36b
Post Number: 1
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - 02:22 pm: |
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I have a 1974 Eska, I just got it running today! The Question: there is a screw port just above to prop with the word "fill" next to it. I presume that it's for oil? What type do I put in it? |
Graham Lamb
Senior Member
Username: galamb
Post Number: 5581
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - 08:01 pm: |
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You can use any Marine gear oil (except type C) or any 80 or 90 weight gear oil that has a GL-5 rating (check the listing on the back of the bottle - the stuff we never read) |
shawn watkins
New member
Username: idahohunter_36b
Post Number: 2
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 12:05 pm: |
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Thank you Graham! Appreciate any other info you can give me. |
Wayne Rowlinson
Advanced Member
Username: winman99
Post Number: 223
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 09:48 pm: |
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You can also find a bit more info at http://home.earthlink.net/~brixent/eskaid.htm
There is also a screw down lower marked drain.
You drain out the old oil first, then put the tip of the gear oil bottom in the bottom and squeeze until oil comes out the top. You then need to reinsert the top screw while still putting pressure on the bottom hole with the container, then quickly put in the lower screw. I'm sure others do it different ways, but I've done it this way hundreds of times. |
karl krautler
New member
Username: karlk
Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2009
| | Posted on Friday, August 28, 2009 - 12:52 pm: |
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I have a sears ted williams-eska circa 1973 5 hp motor. It had serious stumbling and stalling problems til i replaced the small pump valve and side membrane flapper valve and flapper valve gasket. Also a bowl gasket , and new needle with clip and carburetor drain gasket, carburetor mounting gasket, a j13y sparkplug. Voila.....its running fine now! The manual calls for a tcw oil and a 50:1 mix, not chainsaw oil as somebody mentioned and not a j8 sparkplug either! I ordered all these Eska parts for the tecumseh engine from boatsportandtackle.com price was 35.00 including shipping. hope this helps......karl |
shawn watkins
New member
Username: idahohunter_36b
Post Number: 3
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, August 28, 2009 - 08:45 pm: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qM4YmwA1Q4
here's a link to see my motor running!
hope you all get yours going as easily as I did!
Good Luck! |
Tom
Member
Username: tommy_two_stroke
Post Number: 9
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 11:31 am: |
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Hey Shawn, I watched your video. That's a good running engine you've got there. Looks like you're having fun with it. Have you tried it on a boat yet? |
shawn watkins
Member
Username: idahohunter_36b
Post Number: 4
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 08:46 pm: |
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Hey Tom,
I put it in the water about 6 weeks ago! It ran like a top and pushed my boat all over the place!
I have a 12 foot canoe and it works fantastic! |
john rocks!
Member
Username: ilovetofish
Post Number: 9
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 09:18 am: |
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This is the best place to find out info on old motors. Click on link, then select your brand on the left side.
http://www.discount-marine-parts.com
http://www.discount-marine-parts.com |
