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Danny Jones
New member
Username: danny731
Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 04:52 pm: | 
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Long story short- I am trying to start a newly rebuilt 440. With the plugs in, the starter engages, then won't turn, and then the damn dog clutch stays engaged- I was told that these starters disengage when the engine starts- doesn't help me any....
I took the plugs out, and it turns over slowly, not too slow, but almost right about where it should be with the plugs in.
I'm trying to start it by jumping it with cables from my diesel F-350, so I'm using both batteries in parallel, you'd think that woulb be enough. Are my cables to wimpy??
HELP!! Please rely to
mongo75@aol.com |
Fastjeff
Senior Member
Username: fastjeff
Post Number: 4376
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 07:32 pm: |
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Brother, there is something bad wrong there. Did you pre-oil the motor by spinnung the oil pump with a drill motor?
Jeff |
Danny Jones
New member
Username: danny731
Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 08:20 pm: |
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Jeff, no I didn't- but i did turn it a bunch with the starter and no plugs installed.
Well, I got so pissed at this thing I figure if 12 volts kinda works, maybe 24 is better... So I took out both of the batteries from my truck, wired them in series with jumper cables, and it turns faster w/o the plugs in, but with them in, it STILL won't turn over, or it turns like it's on a dead battery. I just don't understand what's going on here??? My last boat I rebuilt a Chevy 350 for, and it lit right up, so I know what I'm doing. This is just so damn frustrating!! |
Peter H
Member
Username: pfhlaw
Post Number: 23
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 05, 2008 - 10:55 am: |
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Could be the starter.
Most auto stores will test the starter for free. |
Danny Jones
New member
Username: danny731
Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:56 am: |
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OK, I'm a dummy- I bought a new battery from Wally World, and new cables, and she spins fine now. I guess my jumper cables are junk....
Thanks everyone! |
Fastjeff
Senior Member
Username: fastjeff
Post Number: 4388
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 05:24 pm: |
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Been there, done that! Glad it's okay now.
Jeff
PS: You're obviously an honest person to admit that. |
Danny Jones
Member
Username: danny731
Post Number: 5
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 10:55 pm: |
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But check this out Jeff- being a Ford man with a good bit of Chevy knoweledge to boot- I didn't know that the distributor on the 440 turns counterclockwise on a "standard" engine. So it took me a while to find that the engine shop sold me a reverse starter UUGHHHHH |
Fastjeff
Senior Member
Username: fastjeff
Post Number: 4393
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 10:25 am: |
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Arrrgh! Those parts guys'll kill you everytime. I hope you didn't crank it over too long that way since the oil pump doesn't....you know.
Jeff
PS: Did you know that Chrysler sold a Ford 460 marine engine with the "Chrysler Marine" name on it? Why the hell that happened stuns me! |
Danny Jones
Member
Username: danny731
Post Number: 8
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 11:03 pm: |
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Jeff, now I'm starting to second guess myself here- the book I have on rebuilding a Dodge big block says like in my last post, that the distributor turns counterclockwise. Please tell me then, which way os the crank, when looking at the front of the engine, supposed to turn??
I ask because the way it was turning, when looking at the front of the engine, was counterclockwise, or left hand. Is that the way a "standard" engine turns, or am I still right in thinking that it should turn clockwise? I second guess myself because (a) the cooling fan on the distributor when turning the way the starter was turning it (left hand) is situated properly, and (b) the raw water pump looks like it also turns the correct way when the crank is going left hand.
And lastly, I am going through a v-drive with aright hand prop, so I'm all confused, got smoke coming out of my ears.... |
Fastjeff
Senior Member
Username: fastjeff
Post Number: 4395
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 07:43 am: |
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..."I'm all confused"
So am I! On a standard rotation engine the damper turns CW when viewed from the front. With a Vee drive, though... I would think it would be the same since the motor itself is turned around, and the direction of rotation changes inside the Vee drive. But....
Sheesh! Somebody pass me the aspirins!
Jeff |
Danny Jones
Member
Username: danny731
Post Number: 9
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 08:40 am: |
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OK Jeff, I got it figured out- I found a Dodge forum, where this guy was selling a 440 interceptor. Another guy asked if he had a reverse rotation engine. THe first guy asked why, and the second one said "to put in my straight shaft boat with a RH prop" So by me running a standard rotation motor, I would have to run a LH prop if I was straight shafted, but since I'm running a v-drive, I will need a standard to run a RH prop. PHEW!!! |
Fastjeff
Senior Member
Username: fastjeff
Post Number: 4401
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 08:36 am: |
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You said it! Good thing you don't have one of those Chris-Craft assbackwards monstrousities! Einstein himself couldn't figure them out.
Jeff |
Danny Jones
Member
Username: danny731
Post Number: 11
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 01:23 am: |
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Just want to let everyone know that today I got back my newly re-wound starter, got ti slapped on. Well, with good fuel pressure, and a 2 seconf squirt of starting fluid, she started right up within 3 revolutions! I only ran it for about 5 minutes 'cause it was past 9pm, but thankfully the mufflers actually work LOL. Tomorrow I'll run it about 2000 rpm for about 1/2 hour to get the cam broken in. |
Fastjeff
Senior Member
Username: fastjeff
Post Number: 4419
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 05:06 pm: |
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Al-ight!
Jeff |
Danny Jones
Member
Username: danny731
Post Number: 12
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 11:44 pm: |
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Well, now if I can just get the damn fresh water to run through the manifolds, I'd be in business- I'll start another post for that though... |
