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Brian G.
Advanced Member
Username: briang0
Post Number: 130
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 09:32 pm: | 
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I went to winterize my boat today. It didn't want to start which is no big deal I can deal with it in the spring. I ended up sucking up the antifreeze from the bucket without ever starting the the engine it caught a few times for just a second or two but never really started. I did end up sucking up 5 gallons of antifreeze into the system does it matter that the engine didn't start? Will that antifreeze get to where it had to go without the engine actually running? Stupid question of the day.... |
Don Keye
Member
Username: willow
Post Number: 71
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 10:06 pm: |
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What is the size of your engine?
((( 350s have 23 quarts( 5.75 gallons) and 454s have 33 quarts(8.25 gallons) cooling capacity)))
Did you drain the block and manifolds prior to putting in the antifreeze?
Was the antifreeze mixed with water at the ratio you wanted by you or was it pre-mix antifreeze?
If you put in 5 gallons of undiluted antifreeze I would imagine you will be all right as that is a heap of antifreeze. If it was diluted in a ratio mix, it still may be OK but might depend on your lowest OAT (Outside Air Temperature) in the winter.
The more I think about it, I am sure it will be OK..but if you didn't, I would suggest that you drain as much water as you can out of the block and manifolds prior to installing any antifreeze...that way what you put in will not be diluted by water in the block but in this case sucking in "5" gallons should have pushed out any trapped water. I would assume you had antifreeze coming out of the exhaust pipes ?? |
Brian G.
Advanced Member
Username: briang0
Post Number: 131
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 11:04 pm: |
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Yes I know it went through the system. I put a bucket under one side of the exhaust and caught about 1 gallon. I actually put 7 gallons through the system. I have 1/2 fresh water cooled BB Chevy (409) the exhaust manifolds and risers are raw water cooled. I just wanted to get a second opinion on this. Usually I fill a 5 gallon bucket and suck it out while the engine is running it usually takes less then a minute. The problem this year was my trailer broke and I never put the boat in the water. I am waiting for someone to come and transfer the boat from the broken trailer to a used trailer that I bought and refurbed. I haven't started the boat since August. It ran great so I'm thinking its probably gas since it's been sitting in the tank most of the summer. It's been getting colder and I didn't want to take any chances the engine is old and replacement parts are hard to come by. I live in Maine and it gets pretty cold but I haven't had a problem in the 3 years I have had the boat. I always winterize it the same way. I use undiluted RV antifreeze the pink stuff. Thanks for your response. |
Don Keye
Member
Username: willow
Post Number: 72
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 11:17 pm: |
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Ahhh..Good for you. The gas issue could be a pain, especially if it is difficult to drain the tank...I had an "O" ring go one winter on my "flat deck" filling caps. Had to take about 5 gallons out to get rid of the water, (100 gallon tanks) and then went through about 5 filters to get back to clean gas.
Now I use DRAFT STOP around the filler caps each winter. It's sorta like silicon and seals very effectively and the nice thing is that it just peels off, leaving no residue, in the Spring.
Maine?? I 'm on the North side of Lake Ontario !!  |
Fastjeff
Senior Member
Username: fastjeff
Post Number: 6993
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 06:38 am: |
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...."Will that antifreeze get to where it had to go without the engine actually running?"
Meaning, does it matter? I'm sure it mattered to your poor starter motor! I assume these are FWCooled motors? If so, you're okay.
Jeff |
Rich P
Member
Username: rich_p
Post Number: 52
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 01:30 pm: |
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The problem now is that you have nasty gas in the carb that is going to sit there all winter. I see a carb rebuild in your future. |
Fastjeff
Senior Member
Username: fastjeff
Post Number: 7003
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 02:01 pm: |
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I do it that way every year. It doesn't seem to matter--long as you add a good gas stabilzer first. And, yes, that's still true with 10 % ethanol gas.
Jeff |
Ted Broderick
Advanced Member
Username: tbrodes
Post Number: 110
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 02:30 pm: |
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I have left fuel in the carb every winter....starts just fine every spring! |
Fastjeff
Senior Member
Username: fastjeff
Post Number: 7006
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 06:33 pm: |
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Me too, though I think most of it evaporates over the winter. Stabilizer is a must, however.
Jeff |
Ricardo E.
Advanced Member
Username: ricardomarine_vp
Post Number: 723
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 09:21 am: |
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Brain, please read my post in this thread..... It may give you some info re; your procedure.
http://www.marineengine.com/discus/messages/12489/295755.shtml |
