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al willis
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Username: awkw

Post Number: 4
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I have a 1977 vintage Kohler gen that started surging. It was running fine earlier this season but it hadn't been run for about 3 weeks and is now surging.I played with the sensitivity adjustment but it still surges could something be sticking in the governer?
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Fastjeff
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Username: fastjeff

Post Number: 6820
Registered: 09-2003


Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Bad fuel, I'll bet. Good old ethanol crap again.

Jeff
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Rick Sweeten
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Username: linesix

Post Number: 1576
Registered: 11-2002


Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Is the motor surging or just the voltage?
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Chuck Hanson
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Username: chuckhanson

Post Number: 134
Registered: 10-2007


Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I am sitting in a hotel room in Geneva reading the messages on the MarineEngine.com forum. It is the least expensive thing I can do in this expensive place, and probably the most entertaining.

I thought of another problem that has caused surging of the engine on my Kohler. My carb needed cleaning and adjusting. This eliminated the surging. I think was is because the carb was running a lean mixture. This may also match with Jeff's bad gasoline. If the alcohol separates, the octane will be lower and water in the fuel will result in a lean mixture.

Did you get your problem fixed?

Chuck Hanson
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Al
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Username: knuckle47

Post Number: 713
Registered: 09-2007


Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Chuck,

Is that Geneva, in Switzerland or Ohio?
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al willis
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Username: awkw

Post Number: 5
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I believe that was my problem also. I had put a new kit in the carb. and after playing with the carb. valves it is running better, but I'm now trying to undo all the govenor adjustments that I made while it was actually a carb. issue

Thanks!
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Chuck Hanson
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Username: chuckhanson

Post Number: 135
Registered: 10-2007


Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

This week my travels have taken me to Geneva Switzerland. Only relationships to boating is that this is the way I pay for my boating habit and there are some beautiful boats on great lake here.

Al willis, there are two critical issues relative to your generator output. One is frequency and the other is voltage. I believe on this particular generator you are looking for an output of 110 volts at a frequency of 60 Hz (cycles per second). The frequency can be measured by an oscilloscope or knowing the specs of the generator, by the speed of the engine in revolutions per minute (RPM). I don't have my book with me but I expect your engine is designed to run at 1800 RPM. I like the direct of measuring the frequency which eliminates any question.

I don't know of any adjustment for voltage. i believe this is set by the windings which are not variable. Maybe someone else can opine on this topic.

Chuck Hanson
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Al
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Username: knuckle47

Post Number: 720
Registered: 09-2007


Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

My Westerbeke and ONAN manuals both imply that voltage is essentially fixed and the frequency is a regulated component of engine speed, typically 1800 rpm

Hey Chuck...SWITZERLAND ... Chocolate or Skiing? :-)
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Chuck Hanson
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Username: chuckhanson

Post Number: 136
Registered: 10-2007


Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

In meetings at the United Nations 14 hours each day. No real fun here but good eating.

The reason I would assure that you have 60 Hz is that some of your electrical will either not operate properly or just get burned up.

Chuck
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al willis
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Username: awkw

Post Number: 6
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I believe you are correct about the 110 VAC at 60 HZ. I have the boat dry docked and ready for our usual cold Iowa winter. Thanks for your suggestions, I will be anxious to work on it in the spring


Al Willis

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