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Carlito Misa
New member
Username: carlito
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 12:40 pm: | 
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I upgrade to pertronix from points. Boat will not start so I replace the coil with pertronix flamethrower #40111 58 milliamps, 1.5 ohms, 7200 rpm. The boat runs perfect got to set up timing and such. Test drove the boat for 15 minutes running in different speed. on the way back to the dock it stop and I can't get it to start up again. |
makomark
Senior Member
Username: makomark
Post Number: 1792
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 01:42 pm: |
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Do you have B+ on the + coil terminal with the key on? |
Carlito Misa
New member
Username: carlito
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 03:36 pm: |
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yes I do. The boat run for a while got to time it then drove it. Then it stop and won't start anymore. |
chiefalen
Advanced Member
Username: chiefalen
Post Number: 316
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 06:30 pm: |
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define what you mean bye not start?
Does it crank and not start? Then pull a plug wire and hold it to the plug and crank it and see if you got spark. Check the kill switch.
Don't crank at all? Is it in neutral? |
Carlito Misa
New member
Username: carlito
Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 07:52 pm: |
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it does crank over and get sparks also getting fuel. but will not run at all |
Bob Hill
Senior Member
Username: boatin_bob
Post Number: 1479
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 08:14 pm: |
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When you set the timing did you tighten the bolt, could the dist have moved enough to cause this? Can't believe it's not at least backfiring if you've got spark and fuel. I'm assuming you checked for spark at the plugs and not at the dist? |
Carlito Misa
Member
Username: carlito
Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 02:16 am: |
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I did tighten the bolt. the first time I installed it I had a great spark at the plug wires. after the test run and stop running the spark was weak. I replace the rotor and cap still just turn over no start |
chiefalen
Advanced Member
Username: chiefalen
Post Number: 317
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 07:10 am: |
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run a jumper wire straight to the dist. from the postive post of the battery.
Crank it over see what happens.
could it be the solenoid? If it runs good with the jumper thats what i would look at next. |
Bob Hill
Senior Member
Username: boatin_bob
Post Number: 1481
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 07:50 am: |
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What the Chief says or else you've toasted the coil or the Pertronix unit by using that coil. Are you using any kind of ballast resistor or resistor wire? Did you keep all the points stuff incase you want to try going back? |
makomark
Senior Member
Username: makomark
Post Number: 1801
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 11:32 am: |
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Carlito:
that's the wrong coil per Pertronix's ap data...I'd expect it the toast scenario Bob mentioned. You may want to go over the material at Pertronix's www site just to make sure you didn't miss sommething in the install. |
Carlito Misa
Member
Username: carlito
Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 11:59 am: |
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Which coil should i use from pertronix? |
makomark
Senior Member
Username: makomark
Post Number: 1802
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 12:35 pm: |
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http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/flame/coils/chart.aspx |
Carlito Misa
Member
Username: carlito
Post Number: 6
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 12:36 pm: |
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ok.. I went to the pertronix website to see what application I can use on my boat I can't find it on their list. I have a mallory distributor there is nothing on the list. |
chiefalen
Advanced Member
Username: chiefalen
Post Number: 319
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 05:57 am: |
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i know you spent the money already, but i would put the points system back in just the way it was and try it again and see if you can get it to run.
If it runs good i would keep the points, i could go with a system such as you bought for nothing, but i chose to leave my 86' motor alone.
See it ain't broke so why would i try to fix it ?
Now if you were building say a 350, 305, 7.4 i would go with a hei unit, all in one piece one wire in one wire out. |
Bob Hill
Senior Member
Username: boatin_bob
Post Number: 1483
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 08:31 am: |
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It really depends on how you wired that coil since it's only 1.5 ohm. I think you should have used either a 40501, 40511 or 40611 as these are for a 4cyl and are 3 ohm.
Pertronix install instructions
http://www.pertronix.com/support/manuals/pdf/ignitor12vneg.pdf
Which way is yours wired? |
Carlito Misa
Member
Username: carlito
Post Number: 7
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 08:51 pm: |
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Thank you everyone for your help. I got my boat running. I replace the coil with 40511 and got me a mallory rotor instead of aftermarket. It runs great but I need to figure out my electric choke so I will start a new thread thank you all. |
makomark
Senior Member
Username: makomark
Post Number: 1813
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 10:30 pm: |
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Glad the right parts let it run again. |
