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neil jones
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Username: jansteam40

Post Number: 45
Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

does anyone know what the pressure should be when doing a compression test on a 1999 merc 305 engine
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Bondo
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Username: bondo

Post Number: 2176
Registered: 12-2006


Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Ayuh,... Over 100psi,+ under 200psi...

You're not looking for a particular #,...
It's much more important that the spread between the Highest,+ Lowest is within 10% of each other...
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neil jones
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Username: jansteam40

Post Number: 46
Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

ok thanks bondo
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Ricardo E.
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Username: ricardomarine_vp

Post Number: 1063
Registered: 03-2009
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Ditto Bondo!

Perform both dry "cold" and "warm" tests for more info.
You can also perform an "oil wet" test to eliminate or define piston ring issues and/or valve related issues.
Start with cold dry test!
Record the readings.
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Kghost
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Username: kghost

Post Number: 1235
Registered: 07-2008


Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I would guess aprox 140 - 150 psi
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Bt Doctur
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Username: bt_doctur

Post Number: 1284
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Make sure the battery is fully charged, the throttle plates wide open, and all the plugs out.
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PugetSounder
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Username: pugetsounder

Post Number: 580
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

It helps to know what the compression was at new just to get an idea how worn the engine is. If somebody is telling you an engine has 100 hours but the compression is ~125 lbs across all cylinders and it was 160lbs new, they are blowing smoke up yer you-know-what. That engine could have well over 1000 hours on it. Eventhough all cyls might be within 10 lbs and could be a good engine, you don't know what else they are lying about. I don't know what a SBC 305 is new but I'm sure yu can dig that up somewhere.
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makomark
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Username: makomark

Post Number: 2120
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Initial compression numbers will vary due to two drivers: 1) the manufacturing process and 2) the break-in process. these variables contributed to GM revising their recommendations for compression checks over a decade ago.
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neil jones
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Username: jansteam40

Post Number: 47
Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

thanks for your input guys keep em coming
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JUST-IN-TIME
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Username: justintime

Post Number: 7487
Registered: 09-2006


Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

do a leak down

compression test are for 2 strokes
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Ricardo E.
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Username: ricardomarine_vp

Post Number: 1144
Registered: 03-2009
Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I once over-heard a young mechanic (he was probably 34/35 years old) try to explain this to a small group of seasoned mechanics... I was one of them!
When several logical explanations were offered to him......, he sort of changed his philosophy on that idea.

I am not sure what Neil is trying to accomplish here, and/or if he has the skills to perform the tests and to interpret the readings (dry/wet/cold/warm/etc) ........, but he will be able to gain some basic knowledge by performing a few correct Comp Tests w/ a correct L/D test.
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JUST-IN-TIME
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Username: justintime

Post Number: 7490
Registered: 09-2006


Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

yes, but if you have a slightly leaky valve seat, your compression will still be good!!
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Ricardo E.
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Username: ricardomarine_vp

Post Number: 1145
Registered: 03-2009
Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

"yes, but if you have a slightly leaky valve seat, your compression will still be good!"

I must disagree.... the compression (pressure) will not be good!
The bad valve(s) is allowing the pressure to escape! Cylinder pressure will be low!

The piston's sealing rings may very well be capable of rendering good cylinder pressure....., but the reading will be low due to the failing valve/seat......... hence, an inadequate cylinder pressure reading!

With the correct procedure, an experienced mechanic will have determined that at least one valve(s) is part of, or all of, the culprit!
From there, and with possible further testing, he will determine his next step!
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JUST-IN-TIME
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Username: justintime

Post Number: 7493
Registered: 09-2006


Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

ok

well i have seen this first hand

the valve has a very very slight bend to it

the compression was only 5 psi different!

until i did the leak down test!!
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chiefalen
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Username: chiefalen

Post Number: 639
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 06:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Then the vacuum test will indicate that. Some people hook a vacuum gauge up to the dash.
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JUST-IN-TIME
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Username: justintime

Post Number: 7500
Registered: 09-2006


Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

yep, the vacuum gauge works like a charm also

most tech's never use them!!!

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