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mike weakley
Member
Username: mikey43
Post Number: 23
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 09:47 pm: | 
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what will a person have to do to change a thound erbolt ignition and get rid of that costly icm and put a msd dist. a 95 350v8 alpha? any ideas? |
Bt Doctur
Senior Member
Username: bt_doctur
Post Number: 1237
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 09:55 pm: |
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Make sure it`s marine rated |
mike weakley
Member
Username: mikey43
Post Number: 24
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 10:10 pm: |
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yes will be. how costly and is it better? is there a bunch of rewireing? has to be marine if not nobody will work on it and also safer you guys teach me alot thanks. all of yall are helpful. hope everybody had a good thanksgiving.ps have learned a alot on this site!!!! |
mike weakley
Member
Username: mikey43
Post Number: 25
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 10:30 pm: |
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also would a ready to run msd dist work and if it will. any ideas,part#,etc. |
Bondo
Senior Member
Username: bondo
Post Number: 2122
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 07:20 am: |
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"and is it better?"
Nope,... You've already Got the Best marine igntion system money can buy... |
mike weakley
Member
Username: mikey43
Post Number: 26
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 07:49 am: |
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805185-4 is the mostly costly icm 494.35 thats why i thought i would change it. what is the difference some are 1 number off? thanks bondo. |
Guy Gaspar
Senior Member
Username: guyjg
Post Number: 5501
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 09:39 am: |
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I sent you 2 emails for modules. |
chiefalen
Advanced Member
Username: chiefalen
Post Number: 400
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 12:46 pm: |
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SBC-BBC-CHEVY-SUPER-65K-HEI-DISTRIBUTOR-6500-R_W0 QQitemZ330362222615QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=it em4ceb1f7817
Not that i would ever tell anyone to install one of these non-marine units in there boat.
However we installed one in my friends boat. One wire in, one wire out. One wire to the tach.
Takes the computer out of the equation gives super performance and costs with delivery under a 100 bucks will last forever.
Remember i posted i would not recommend YOU to do it, however it's your boat.
Oh yea yea, yea, not marked marine rated however i want anyone post the difference between this unit and a marine rated one except the 400 dollar price tag on the marine one. |
Bondo
Senior Member
Username: bondo
Post Number: 2123
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 12:58 pm: |
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"Oh yea yea, yea, not marked marine rated however i want anyone post the difference between this unit and a marine rated one except the 400 dollar price tag on the marine one."
Ayuh,... Do you mean, Other than the Fact that marine motors will Not run with a Vacuum Advance,+ that distributer Doesn't have safety screens over the Vents,..??
Mike;..."what is the difference some are 1 number off?"
You'll have to do your Own research,...
Usually there's a difference in the spark advancment map...
I'd suggest pawing through the Service Manuals, or Dennis Moore's books... |
chiefalen
Advanced Member
Username: chiefalen
Post Number: 401
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 04:29 pm: |
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i installed it. can be installed with or without vacuum advance.
Did you ever have one in your hands?
If your going to keep it stock that one number means all the difference in the world.
The motor i installed it in was a rebuilt block from Michigan motors, the boat was submerged in saltwater.Motor was toast. The elctronics were not able to be saved.
So in went in the hei, 3 years latter it runs like a scalded cat. Nice Marathon. |
Hy Stat
Senior Member
Username: hystat
Post Number: 1562
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 08:56 pm: |
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805185-4 is the mostly costly icm 494.35
can buy a complete delco voyager marine HEI system for less - comes with new wires, dist, all marine approved and safe. |
chiefalen
Advanced Member
Username: chiefalen
Post Number: 402
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 09:15 pm: |
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Hy and Bond-o are of course correct, i thought about my post for a while. Not that i was wrong about the hei unit, but that a marine unit should be used. |
mike weakley
Member
Username: mikey43
Post Number: 27
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 09:27 pm: |
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ok lets go marine. thats ok i need to do something need to fix it give me some part#,just want it to run right,hy stat good idea! gotta get going on before spring. |
mike weakley
Member
Username: mikey43
Post Number: 28
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 09:33 pm: |
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i just cant see spendn 494.34 for 1 icm when i can do the whole thing for less.maybe thats why i ask all of yall. you guys know! what to do!!! and how to do it thanks good info! |
chiefalen
Advanced Member
Username: chiefalen
Post Number: 403
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 08:14 am: |
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http://bpi.ebasicpower.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=eBasicPower&P roduct_Code=MAL9-26001&Category_Code=MER10K |
mike weakley
Member
Username: mikey43
Post Number: 29
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 09:28 am: |
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ok chiefalen thats the one going to order it thanks alot good info! |
Hy Stat
Senior Member
Username: hystat
Post Number: 1563
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 11:18 am: |
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The Delco kits are a bit cheaper, but the Mallory looks good. kinda look like they might be the same unit
http://www.michiganmotorz.com/Marine+Parts+&+Accessories/Ignition+Parts+&+Kits |
chiefalen
Advanced Member
Username: chiefalen
Post Number: 404
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 06:02 pm: |
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Delco top notch also. A little lighter hit on the wallet. |
mike weakley
Member
Username: mikey43
Post Number: 30
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 10:59 pm: |
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ok hystat and chiefalen delco it is. i like it yall have been a lot of help! thanks a million! that michiganmotorz is a good site thanks again! |
makomark
Senior Member
Username: makomark
Post Number: 1948
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 10:56 am: |
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http://bpi.ebasicpower.com/c/ALL6A/Ignition+Kits+for+GM
$20 is $20...should cover the shipping costs. |
mike weakley
Member
Username: mikey43
Post Number: 33
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 07:05 pm: |
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what do i do with the icm plug when i put in the new delco dist? |
chiefalen
Advanced Member
Username: chiefalen
Post Number: 581
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 10:39 pm: |
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nothing |
mike weakley
Member
Username: mikey43
Post Number: 34
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 03:40 pm: |
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ok chiefalen you dont have to bypass the module? just put in the new dist and go? what about the knock senser? thanks |
chiefalen
Advanced Member
Username: chiefalen
Post Number: 586
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 04:35 pm: |
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The directions mention what screw it goes to on the dist?
The one piece i did was a couple of screws for the tach, and sensors.
Now understand, this is coming from a guy who can't remember who or what i ate last night. |
mike weakley
Member
Username: mikey43
Post Number: 35
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 07:41 pm: |
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thanks chiefalen good info fixin to try it |
chiefalen
Advanced Member
Username: chiefalen
Post Number: 588
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 05:30 am: |
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I would drive over to my friends boat but i am currently under a foot of snow and it's going to snow till this evening.
But on the base should be different color screws i'm not playing with you i have dist problems on my truck i'm working thru.
The computer plug we left hanging. |
mike weakley
Member
Username: mikey43
Post Number: 36
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 09:18 am: |
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i know what your talkn about the snow we had 15" during xmas and i work for the dept of trans in texas lot of overtime for us!! ok that was what i was wonder about that is good about the plug i was worried about that for a while i am no boat mechanic i am learning with all the help from you guys! yall a lot of help thanks! enjoy the snow in front of the fireplace |
mike weakley
Member
Username: mikey43
Post Number: 40
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 08:28 pm: |
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well ordered the delco voyager dist today! from michigan motorz good idea! i hope! i think it will i talked to them and the man in tech said people do this all the time for the same reason 494.00! for the icm. |
