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Jesse
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Username: ruckus3313

Post Number: 203
Registered: 10-2008


Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Hello all,

My brother in law has a 1978 Merc 165 I-6 with alpha drive. Drive only has 5 hours on it since total rebuild.Went to winterize it yesterday and pulled the bottom drain plug to check condition of the oil and its already Milky. How can this be?? Bad seal already?? Can anybody send me a link to that outdrive oil reservoir kit??Thanks for any help provided
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Brian Brackett
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Username: kainon

Post Number: 1023
Registered: 03-2009


Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

definately, they missed something, guess they didn't pressure test it !!
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Jesse
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Username: ruckus3313

Post Number: 204
Registered: 10-2008


Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Brian,

yeah no crap. guess we better do that to find the culprit seal!! What a pain it can be.thanks for the help. i still cant find a remote oil reservoir for this outdrive anywhere. I found one once but can not now???
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Guy Gaspar
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Username: guyjg

Post Number: 5463
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

check eBay Motors
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Jesse
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Username: ruckus3313

Post Number: 205
Registered: 10-2008


Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Guy,

Weirdest thing ever, i looked up and down for that remote reservoir kit and couldn't find the proper part for this application.BAM!! eBay motors had it on the 3rd item down???I feel like a real genius now lol...!!thanks... I'm not too familiar with the Mercruiser but is this the correct kit. I'm almost 99% sure it is.. Now we just gotta find the leak fix it and install one of these bad boys so we don't have to worry about water getting in.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercruiser-Gen-1-Remote-Gear-Oil-Reservoir-Kit_W0 QQitemZ130340707868QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBoat_Parts_Accessories_Gear?hash=item1e58e 95e1c
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Bt Doctur
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Username: bt_doctur

Post Number: 1208
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Looks like that would work but it`s purpose is to tell you somethings leaking gear oil.Will not prevent water intrusion.Common areas are shift shaft seal, pump base seals, pump base gasket/O ring, upper unit shaft and oil seal.
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Jesse
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Username: ruckus3313

Post Number: 206
Registered: 10-2008


Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Doctur,

Thanks. I will start some diagnostics this weekend. However, on the remote reservoir I was under the assumption they use these to put positive pressure on the out drive and if there is a leak it pushes oil into the water instead of water coming into the oil??I thought someone from this forum was telling me about it. However, you are the Doctur!!!I'm just a novice.Thanks again
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Bob Hawes
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Username: bhawes

Post Number: 69
Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Jesse.
As Bt Doctur suggested, the reservoir only gives you a visual of what is happening to your outdrive fluid. It is just a tube attached to your lower unit with a tank on the top. If its milky in the leg, it will be milky in the reservoir. The newer versions have a built in alarm if the fluid level in the reservoir drops too low, indicating a leak somewhere. The leak is also a good indicator that water will be coming in. If that leg only has 5 hours on a rebuild, I'd be looking to whomever did the rebuild. I'd think that the leg would have to be removed and some retrofitting done to install the tube and reservoir. I ran an Alpha 1 for 30 years without the reservoir and didn't miss it. It is a handy feature, but good maintenance will serve you well without it.
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Bt Doctur
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Username: bt_doctur

Post Number: 1209
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

The caps are vented because as the oil warms a bit ,it expands and goes in the bottle.
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chiefalen
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Username: chiefalen

Post Number: 331
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

i wouldn't install one. The plastick nipple always breaks on them.

I don't think the alpha one will leak at the shift shaft bushing thats a alpha two problem.And they came up with a fix for it.

The prop shaft seal maybe fishing line got wrapped around the shaft and destroyed the prop seal, the upper shaft seal,And heres the one i really think it is if not the prop seal, the DRAIN PLUGS.

What happens is the plastick washers are not there, they used o-rings instead of the washers or no washers there at all, or old washers.
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Guy Gaspar
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Username: guyjg

Post Number: 5466
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

That is the same one I put on my 1987 Alpha 1. No need to remove the OD. Must drill thru the transom for the tube. I sealed the wood in the hole w/epoxy although it is well above the water line.
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Jesse
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Username: ruckus3313

Post Number: 207
Registered: 10-2008


Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Thanks Guy,

I ordered kit and gonna fix OD this weekend!! Ill post an update to let everyone know how things went

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