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David C. August
New member
Username: daugust
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 06:35 pm: | 
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Have a 78 Searay 889 with a pre Alpha Merc. Drive removed the Gimbal bearing but can't get sleeve out ( using a slide hammer ) seems like the ring that holds the drive boot is in the way (see pic) any help would be very welcome |
Brian Brackett
Senior Member
Username: kainon
Post Number: 1006
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 06:50 pm: |
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What type of end are you using on the slide hammer? Claws dont work that good and frequently pull out. |
Brian Brackett
Senior Member
Username: kainon
Post Number: 1007
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 06:53 pm: |
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this is the type of end i've had success with. from a KD Tools kit. The ring that holds the boot doesn't usually restrict the bearing. (unless it's corroded, which shouldn't happen if it's properly greased)
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Bt Doctur
Senior Member
Username: bt_doctur
Post Number: 1194
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 07:17 pm: |
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Reinstall the bearing and pull the bearing out with the carrier.Save the old ring to make a greasing tool.A new bearing comes with a new ring anyway
[IMG]http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g219/BtDoctur/gimbalgreasetool.jpg[/IMG]. |
David C. August
New member
Username: daugust
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 09:21 pm: |
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I knew I could count on you guy's thanks for the info |
Brian Brackett
Senior Member
Username: kainon
Post Number: 1008
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 01:13 am: |
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nice tool BT !!! .. I want one !! |
Kghost
Senior Member
Username: kghost
Post Number: 1052
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 06:29 am: |
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Brian
My memory is a bit vauge on that set up.....
Why does the boot have a hard inner sleeve?
I thought all boots fit outside the bearing housing?
Even so it should pull out of there as it had to go in!! ( the bearing that is)
Are you sure ther is not a snap ring stuck ina groove??
You live close enough if you need it I could lend you my slide hammer with a three jaw puller and a ten pound hammer.
Let me know |
Brian Brackett
Senior Member
Username: kainon
Post Number: 1009
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 10:19 am: |
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There's nothing holding in the gimbal bearing except tension from the crush..
only pre-1970 had the spring clip/retaining clip. But I've personally had a heck of a time trying to use claws.. they just dont work that well, The head that KD Tools has works great..
There is no hard inner sleeve on alpha or pre-alpha, he's looking at the casting of the gimbal housing.
there is a seal on the inside he could be going to far and trying to pull the seal, maybe he has enough room to have someone peek there head inside and look at the back of the engine to see where the claws are grabbing. |
Kghost
Senior Member
Username: kghost
Post Number: 1054
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 12:15 pm: |
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>>>You live close enough if you need it I could lend you my slide hammer with a three jaw puller and a ten pound hammer. <<<
If this cant get it out than nothing will
I guarrentee it will work!!! |
hoot
Member
Username: hoot
Post Number: 7
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 12:47 pm: |
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some folks have devised a fixture where the bearing is pulled out using long allthread rod and two nuts, a flat plate with a threaded hole in the center across the gimbal housing, another flat piece that fits behind the inner ring of the bearing, and by turning a nut, the bearing is pulled out. this requires access to a machine shop or knowing someone who works in one. before i installed my new bearing, i put it in the freezer overnite, rubbed powdered graphite in the bore of the housing, then heated the housing with a hair dryer to expand it. to drive it in you need a tool that fits against the outer ring |
Kghost
Senior Member
Username: kghost
Post Number: 1055
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 01:07 pm: |
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The tool you discibe I believe is what Merc sells for gimbal bearing removal.
As far as installation they sell a threaded adapter and reverse the pull process.
I have posted my tools here onece with pictures of each tool. I deleted them from my computer and camera so I do not have them.
When one does one or two bearings once in a while it is ok to use some of the tools you speek of.
When doing a LOT of bearings you need a way to make some money off the job by reducing labor.
A slide hammer like mine will pull a gimbal bearing out in 2 pulls!!
the install driver I had a tool made (to my specs) requires a 3 lb short sledge hammer and it takes around 4 - 5 hits to seat the bearing.
Also you need to line up the grease fitting so with my tool you can see where that is supose to be.
Once the outdrive is removed, using my tools it takes aprox, 15-20 minutes to remove and install a bearing. |
Bt Doctur
Senior Member
Username: bt_doctur
Post Number: 1196
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 05:54 pm: |
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This installs the bearing
[IMG]http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g219/BtDoctur/IMG_1407.jpg[/IMG]
This removes it
[IMG]http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g219/BtDoctur/IMG_1413.jpg[/IMG] |
Bt Doctur
Senior Member
Username: bt_doctur
Post Number: 1197
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 05:56 pm: |
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Rear motor mount installation tool
[IMG]http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g219/BtDoctur/IMG_1385.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g219/BtDoctur/IMG_1383.jpg[/IMG] |
