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dave
Member
Username: homerl
Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 03:23 pm: | 
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Can you use a automotive oil filter for a 305 marine engine?This is a raw water engine/motor.Thanks |
Rod Stewart
Senior Member
Username: rod_stewart
Post Number: 1266
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 05:36 pm: |
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There have been a couple of threads on this topic in the recent past.
Conclusions seems to be use Merc, or WIX, or most anything but Fram.
Myself I consider the cost of an oil filter every 25-50 hours as nothing, so I use Merc. Concensus seems to be they may be better than most automotive type filters.
Rod |
Todd Moore
Advanced Member
Username: concritter
Post Number: 144
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 06:55 pm: |
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Dave,
The answer is yes and listen to Rod about the types.If your oil see's water then you have more worries than filters.Replacing frequently should be sooner than perhaps 10 years when it might rust through....Todd |
Brian Roderick
Member
Username: brian_from_boston
Post Number: 23
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 10:09 pm: |
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Why no to Fram? |
David R Cole
Member
Username: david_ray
Post Number: 77
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 10:37 pm: |
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Brian,
I can not speak for anyone but myself, but I believe Fram makes their cartridges of too thin metal. On different vehicles using different model filters, I have had several Fram brand filters bloat/swell from the internal oil pressure, and thus start leaking heavily around the seal. In one case the filter almost fell off as when warped it was no longer tight against the mount.
Fram just isn't worth the risk to me and is permanently off by buying list. I cannot testify for or against the filter efficiency, just the problem I had. |
Rod Stewart
Senior Member
Username: rod_stewart
Post Number: 1268
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 11:01 pm: |
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Check this discussion:
http://www.marineengine.com/discus/messages/12486/148393.shtml
Rod |
PugetSounder
Advanced Member
Username: pugetsounder
Post Number: 176
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 04:14 pm: |
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I have nothing against Fram filters in my cars. I've been using them for years and some of my cars have had close to 300,000 miles on them when I sold them off. The only filter I ever had trouble with splitting and bloating was a Purolator. I've heard the Napa Gold works well for boats.
BUT I don't use car filters in my boat. The cost is negligible and car filters aren't made for marine environments. Another FYI about OEM filters is they may come in different sizes. I just changed the oil in my MCM470 and noticed the Quicksilver filter that came off was longer than the Sierra filter I got from my marine supply store from parts catelog numbers. The diameter and mount are the same but it's almost 2" longer hence more filtering and cooling ability. It will do for now but I wrote down the OEM number from the old filter to make sure I get the bigger one next time. |
Bondo
Advanced Member
Username: bondo
Post Number: 994
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 06:32 pm: |
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Ayuh,.......
I buy My filters a Napa,.....
They're just rebadged Wix filters,... Same part #s,+ all....
Wix usually comes out either nearly, or at the Top of any studies I've read about Oil Filters......
It ain't like Any of the OEMs are actually Making their filters..... |
Brian Roderick
Member
Username: brian_from_boston
Post Number: 27
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 08:17 pm: |
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Can anyone tell me the Sierra Oil filter part #, that is cross referenced with the Fram PH8A?? |
David R Cole
Member
Username: david_ray
Post Number: 78
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 10:30 pm: |
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According to catalog in front of me, Sierra 18-7875 fits Fram PH8A use on Ford style filters for the 2.3, 302, and 351 engines. |
Brian Roderick
Member
Username: brian_from_boston
Post Number: 28
Registered: 05-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 06:22 pm: |
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Thanks Dave, I had picked up the 18-7876 yesterday. Returned it for the correct one today. Thank You |
dave
Member
Username: homerl
Post Number: 6
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 07:56 pm: |
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Thanks everyone for all your help.Everyday I'm learning something new |
Mike Grieff
New member
Username: mikeinnc40
Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 08:26 pm: |
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Never use a auto oil filter on a marine engine,there not the same. Seems if you have water in your oil.... hmmmm,imagine what is happing to your cam a bearings.
Something is leaking |
Bondo
Senior Member
Username: bondo
Post Number: 1016
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 11:17 am: |
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"Never use a auto oil filter on a marine engine,there not the same."
Ayuh,..... Right,......
Can you explain the Difference,..??..??..?? |
Jeff Waters
Member
Username: scarab_excell
Post Number: 62
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 12:28 pm: |
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yes the cost, that is all!!! |
Guy Gaspar
Senior Member
Username: guyjg
Post Number: 2056
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 12:48 pm: |
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NOOOOOOOOO! One says "MARINE" on it. That makes it better. Read above referenced discussion from ROD.  
If it is under warranty by the mfg. then stick w/the OEM part to keep the mfg. from blaming a failure on a non-OEM part unless they installed it. |
Warren Jones
Member
Username: jw_in_dixie
Post Number: 90
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 01:48 pm: |
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"but it's almost 2" longer", quoting from a post above, about the Merc oil filter being longer that an automotive. That fits with what my Merc Tech buddy said about Merc filters being designed for greater thruput - at higer RPMs than auto motor typically turn, pumping more oil thru the filter. Makes sense to me. JW in Dixie |
Bondo
Senior Member
Username: bondo
Post Number: 1024
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 06:29 pm: |
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Ayuh,.....
Warren,.....
Wix lists 3 different lengths for a SBC,....
It totally depends on the Part # choosen......... |
