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Honda 50 fuel in crankcase oil

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David Smith
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Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

At first I thought it was the thermostat as this happened a few years back...replaced this, as it was indeed stuck open, but developed the same symptoms-fuel in the crankcase oil.

It ran fine for a day, then only at slow speed, as i limped home. Now I could sure use some advice on the proper diagnosis.

What could be the other causes for fuel in the crankcase oil?

Any advice would be much appreciated !
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Brian Roe
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Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 07:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I am having the same problem with my bf8 I discovered the pcv was picking up the oil and gas mix from the crankcase and shooting it back into the intake causing the plugs to get wet with the mix. I took it apart and the pcv reed valve was rusted and possably not working properly. Just ordred the parts to replace ill let you know what happens. I know this does not explain the gas in the oil to start with. I was wondering if the fuel pump could be leaking into the valve cover. Does yours run fine then start smoking right before the plugs get wet? B
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David Smith
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Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I changed the plugs and they looked fine, though there is some white smoke at idle. This was ocurring before I had fuel in the oil.

Now it filled up the dipstick in one day. Wondered where I should start. Could clogged jets cause the problem? Stuck float? Just not sure where to begin...
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ikia
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Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Check the fuel pump and check the carburetor floats.Run fuel out of the engine when you take boat out of water.
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David Smith
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Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Thanks ! How does one check the fuel pump ?
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ikia
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Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Find the pump and if it has a rupured diaphragm it may leak fuel into the oil.Remove pump from the mount and operate primer ball to see what happens.
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David Smith
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Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Took a look at fuel pump and not the problem. No fuel came out when I primed it with the bulb. Just wondering what carburetor problems could cause fuel in the oil ?
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JUST-IN-TIME
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Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

it is either fuel pump or t-stat
nothing else
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David Smith
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Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

so if it is the fuel pump....when i take the pump off and prime the bulb, fuel should come out, if it is faulty, yes?
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JUST-IN-TIME
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Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 03:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

sometimes u can not see it
might need to get hot to expand
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David Smith
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Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Do you think I need try to replace the whole pump or start with just the diaphragm ? Can something go wrong with them other than the diaphragm? I'm a commercial fisherman and am trying not to have too much downtime ! Thank you kindly for your advice !
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JUST-IN-TIME
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Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

whole pump is ez thany the gasket
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David Smith
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Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

not sure I understood..."easier to replace the whole thing?
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JUST-IN-TIME
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Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

yes the whole pump

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