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1989 FORCE 125 HP CHOKE PROBLEMS

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JOHNNY QUEEN
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Posted on Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

CHOKE SOLENOID ONLY CLOSES BUTTERFLIES HALF WAY IS IT SUPPOSED TO PULL PLUNGER UP ALL THE WAY COS I CAN PUSH IT UP MANUALLY
THANKS
JOHNNY
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Brian Brackett
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Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

no caps please.

Yes suppose to close fully, check to be sure you can close it by hand without restrictions, could be the connections are dirty and it's not getting full Volts and Amps it needs. Try a jumper wire directly to the battery. ( to the post on the solenoid) I've seen where the lower carb plate was fully closed, causing hard start and running, and when choked neither plate closed. Readjusted the plates all problems solved.

If you can post a pic of what you have and/or what its doing.
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Johnny Queen
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Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

thanks for responding. i cleaned plunger and solenoid and works great now i'm a newbie and fixing this old girl up hope to get her in water soon its alot to learn and repair thanks again
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Johnny Queen
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Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

what type of fluid goes in trim and will decarbing help this 1989 125 force run stronger
thanks
johnny
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Brian Brackett
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Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

yea.. cleaning the plunger works too..

Not sure on the trim fluid, I'm working on a 125 now, I think it's the same year, which that one uses power steering fluid.

Stronger? Decarbonizing helps with deiseling or run on, not sure what you are looking for in running stronger, whats the compression numbers?
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Johnny Queen
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i've been told power steering fluid, 30w non detergent and 10w40 so i'm lost as far as compression 103-112 i was told decarbing would increase compression therefore increasing horse power what do you think and thanks for your time and help
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Brian Brackett
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Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

I dont think decarbing would increase compression, as you are removing material from the chamber, if it did.. any increase would not be noticed. I feel the 103 and the 112 is low.

As for the fluid, I was playing with a 88 125 today and the fluid is red which is power steering type fluid, not straight oil, Star brite does make a "Clear" All Purpose Powersteering fluid but looks and feels like 30w oil except it was clear and not yellow.
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Brian Brackett
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Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

what is the comp on the other 2 cyls ? 103 is close to 10% of 112, if the other 2 are higher then you have a problem.
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william g moore jr
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Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP

Agree with Brian- these engines always had "perfect" compression and a difference of as little as 5# has revealed a burnt cylinder. The easy way to check is the exhaust side cover. Just take a look at the side of each piston and gently press each ring to test for springy. Now is the time to catch a bad piston- when you can just re-hone it and replace the piston.

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