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Douglas Kreber
Member
Username: nydoug
Post Number: 35
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 05:16 pm: | 
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Hey folks, I bought a 1988 125 HP force. The previous owner gave me a manual for the power trim installation. The unit number is 5h196. But the manual says that it is for a 85 HP? Are these after market? My motor does not stay up after trimming in fact it comes down rather fast. Is it possible that this unit is not strong enough for a 125? I can't see any fluid leaking out or the actual model number on the unit. PLEASE any help will be greatly apprceciated
thanx
nydoug |
Richard Rittenburg
Member
Username: rrit
Post Number: 5
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 05:43 pm: |
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that is exactly the right system for 1988 3cylinder and larger. Make sure that you have the thrust plate installed before going into regular use. If you operate without thrust plate it will wallow a hole into your engine swivel bracket.
Motor failure and pressure bleed off are normal around the 20 year mark. The motors never wear out ... they just get rust inside. If you put new seals on before the rust gets started then it's almost like having a new motor. The pressure bleed off is from valve body. Motor seals will run you about $30ish and valve body will run you $300 new and $150 rebuild. Then your system will run like new. |
Douglas Kreber
Member
Username: nydoug
Post Number: 36
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 11:20 am: |
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Rich, do you know of anyone that rebuilds these? |
Richard Rittenburg
Member
Username: rrit
Post Number: 6
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 11:29 am: |
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for new - search here or google
for used or rebuilt - search ebay or craigslist
the search term most likely to work is
"Chrysler or Force" plus "valve or pump" plus "trim or tilt"
For Ebay, cut and paste following:
(chrysler,force) (valve,pump) (trim,tilt) |
Douglas Kreber
Member
Username: nydoug
Post Number: 39
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 03:13 pm: |
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Rich, are you confident that that pressure bleed off isn't from the cylinders? |
Richard Rittenburg
Member
Username: rrit
Post Number: 7
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 06:45 pm: |
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nothing is guaranteed but if you showed me 100 boats with bleed down then at least 95 of them would be caused by valve body. Out of the 5 with bad cylinders 3 of them would have water in the fluid. |
Douglas Kreber
Member
Username: nydoug
Post Number: 40
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 01:30 pm: |
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Thanx a million Richard for your help. Does the valve body just pull out from the bottom of the unit or is this a complicated tasks? |
Richard Rittenburg
Member
Username: rrit
Post Number: 8
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 03:51 pm: |
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removal instructions
http://home.comcast.net/~netsvc/Docs/pumpstall.pdf |
Douglas Kreber
Member
Username: nydoug
Post Number: 41
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 05:50 am: |
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Thanx Richard so much for your help, I'm sorry I had to bother you and couldn't find this myself. |
Brian Brackett
Advanced Member
Username: kainon
Post Number: 910
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 10:20 pm: |
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http://www.apimarine.com/ Rebuilds trim motors, & valve body's. |
Richard Rittenburg
Member
Username: rrit
Post Number: 9
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 02:39 pm: |
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last I heard they were expensive and backordered till next year. If you're lookijng to buy off shelf go with volvo AQ290 assembly and jack up your wire sizes to handle amps without melting. Otherwise feebay is probably best. |
Frankie's Marine
Member
Username: mercury39
Post Number: 14
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 08:42 pm: |
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Your Vaule Body Is The Problem have Fix Manny of Them Over The Last 25 plus Years, I Have Rebuilt Units In Sock, Let Me Know If Can Be Of Help
Good Luck Frankie
frankie@frankiesmarine.com |
Everett Wesley
Member
Username: turbo_man
Post Number: 35
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 03:50 pm: |
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douglas, believe rrit when he tells you something about your t/t system ,as he's all over the different forums. I'm very impressed with his answers and advice to everyone [and he doesn't try to sell his services like other people].If and when I have a problem with my tilt system he will be the one to build it for me.Just my two cents worth |
Frankie's Marine
Member
Username: mercury39
Post Number: 19
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 05:07 pm: |
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This is a Common Problem with This Unit, i have Seen This Over the Last 20-25 Years on The Chry & Force Prestlite Sysyem. Your Promplem is In The Valve Body. I Keep Rebuilt Units In Stock. Give me a Call If I Can Be Of Help Frankie 918-786-8180 % Frankie's Marine |
Douglas Kreber
Member
Username: nydoug
Post Number: 44
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 05:37 am: |
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Thanx a lot Frankie I appreciate your help but fortunitly (for me) I've sold the boat with full disclosure to the buyer. I also told him I was pretty sure it was the valve body and easy enough to replace thanx to the advice from this Forum.
Thanx everyone
njdoug |
